I don't know what happened! Lye Heavy

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Ok, I've searched and can't find an answer. I made my reg. batch of 20% PO & CO and 60% OO added my Lav. EO, like I have done a hundred times! After 24 hrs. I unmolded and cut, usually its still kinda soft at this point but I'm impatient. It wasn't soft, it was dry, not quite crumbly but pretty close I could actually 'snap' a thin bar in half. Did the zap test and my tongue is still tingling! The only thing I did different was put it in a warm oven after pouring, which would not cause it to become lye heavy.

My question is, since I have NO IDEA what happened (obviously I miscalculated an ingredient somewhere) is there any way I can save this batch? Since I only superfat at 5% can I guesstimate and add some more oil in a re-batch?

I hope someone can help, I hate throwing away soap. :(
 
Don't be too upset...it happens. Did you have any issues with your digital scale when weighing the lye? Have you changed brands? Is your scale battery operated or AC? (Replace your batteries before the next batch.)

I would suggest that you hot process this batch of soap. Grate it, chop it, food process it--whatever you choose to break it up into small pieces--the smaller, the better. You can use a crockpot or a double boiler. The double boiler requires more supervision but you can get away with adding more water. Be very careful about how much water you add to a crockpot since it could be too much.

If you have a two to three pound batch, start with a couple of ounces (2-3) of water on the bottom of the pot. Put the soap on top of that. Let it steam for a while to soften. Add a tablespoon of oil and stir gently. Let it cook. Then go back and add a little more (start with a couple of teaspoons at a time, but go easy--don't add too much too soon). Check it every ten to fifteen minutes, once you start adding the oil. You should invest in some pH strips. You can get them at www.thesage.com for a couple of dollars per 100. The readings won't be lab quality but it will keep you from injuring yourself with a tongue test. Order some small pipettes to transfer water to the testing sample too. Use distilled water for the test. Take out a sample of soap. Put it on a non-reactive surface. Dribble some distilled water on it and mix with a small tool (toothpick, plastic spoon end, anything small that won't change the pH) and then push the pH strip into the watery paste. Don't use your finger. If it reads a high pH or spikes with a couple of brown spots, then keep cooking. Any reading in the 12 pH range needs more oil and cooking time. Once it gets down toward 8-9 on those strips (lime color), you're good...you can even do a tongue test at that time.

Another note on tongue testing/zap test...hold the soap sample just in front of your tongue without tasting and you can feel a potential zap radiating...kind of like an electric vibe. If you do--don't put it on your tongue.

After HP'ing the batch and checking it, it should be good to mold. If it's crumbly at all...add more water and cook gently or turn off the crock to let it absorb the water. You can decant it to a bowl to cool if you need to add fragrance. You'll need a thermometer to check it--digital is easiest.

I hope that helps!
 
Great advice on the scale!

If this happened to me...this is what I would do.

Get out your crock pot and dump all of the soap in it. I use a spoon and sort of chop it up. If you just made the soap, you shouldn't have to add any water...I hardly ever do. I don't shred or cut up too small. If it's fresh it "glomps" down pretty easily.

It could be a bit crumbly if you didn't gel all of they way?

If you did gel, maybe it overheated? I've had that happen and I end up with a bit of lye on top of the loaf. I just dump it in my crockpot and HP.

If you've mismeasured and you are lye heavy you can do one of two things.

Throw it out...or again...HP it. After its all gelled and glumpy, test it. You either do the zap or use ph solution. If you are still getting a zap, add a bit of oil (olive, coconut, whatever) and cook for another 20-30 minutes. Test again. Keep doing this until you have soap that doesn't zap.

PLEASE NOTE! This is only to save a batch of soap to use for personal use. I prefer this to throwing it out. However since you don't know exactly what you end up with (superfat and all) then this needs to be YOUR soap.
 
That is so frustrating! I just had a batch that was crumbly and while it did not zap, I think I must have had it right on the edge of lye heavy for it to act like it did. I had to have mismeasured since it is a batch I have done lots of times.

Anyway, I stuck it in the crock pot and added 2% water and 2% oil and it came out good. I have read that you can just keep adding oil in small incremints till you get no zap.

I am no expert, but I would add 6 or 7% oils to start since you know it is lye heavy and you wanted a 5% superfat.

hope you can save it :)
 
I would add 2% oils since you "might" have already superfated 5%. This would bring you up to 7% in case your mix is right...it just didn't incorporate correctly or did some sort of separation.

If it's still zappy- go up from there.
 
Thank you for all your replies and GREAT advice! I do have PH test strips and didn't even think to use them. :oops: The batteries in my scale were fresh, so I knew it had to be something to do with me :wink: After much thinking (and hair pulling) I finally figured out what I did wrong! I feel a little sheepish....but definitely better now that I know. My DH recently built me a bigger mold and instead of wasting another piece of paper I just wrote the increased amounts, in oz, on my original SoapCalc printout. And for some reason when I was measuring the OO I decide to switch from oz to grams (because its such a large amount) and never even clued in that I was now using the wrong amounts. I never wrote down the GRAMS only the oz.....grrrrrr! So I was missing over 500g of OO! The only reason I figured it out is because I remembered thinking my mold didn't seem as full as it usually does.
Sorry for the false alarm, but thank you again for all your wonderful advice, I'm sure I'll be able to use it in the future :wink:
 
Oh that's good that you figured it out! lol, I did something similar once. And the same thing...gee I thought I usually have a bit leftover after filling the mold. DOH!
 
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