so, i emailed pine meadows and asked them what there rules were for the 5$ flatrate, they said a 4oz bottle it too big in diameter to fit in the small flatrate, so just be warned that you cant get one bottle of fo for the 5$, it has to go in the next size up, which is 11$! they can fit 3- 1 oz in 5 box. IM not sure i would shop there again, also. she said it is strong in the bottle and will smell better after added to products, i tried lotion, yuck, i will try soap, but hate to waste product if no one likes it.