Not necessarily, unfortunately.
I don't know if there is a standard against which you measure wisdom, but I do know that people get better with age, whatever their starting point may be.
Yes, I do agree with that. I guess maybe I should have maybe said that a few people will always choose to not use their wisdom. That old saying there's one in every crowd.
As far as the coco woman... She's an ***** just ignore her and let her fail.
But I think marketing your soap as natural is fine, there's big company's here in London who market as natural. I do it with my soap and at first it hurt to do it, but now I know customers lap it up and it works so it's fine.
If you make soaps to sell them then it's something you should try
.......But I think marketing your soap as natural is fine, there's big company's here in London who market as natural. I do it with my soap and at first it hurt to do it, but now I know customers lap it up and it works so it's fine.
If you make soaps to sell them then it's something you should try ......
Posting on a public forum that you are happy to mislead customers because they "lap it up"? Interesting strategy.
I think you misunderstood me, my soap Is100% natural, I'm not miss leading anyone,
The marketing angle seems to have prevented you from giving this the slightest thought.
Natural = "existing in or caused by nature; not made or caused by humankind"
Did you grow your soap? Did you find it in the forest, dig it out of the ground, fish it out of the sea? Did it fall out of the sky? Get hurled out of a volcano?
Synthetic or man-made products are those that are produced by chemical reactions and other processes in factories. I kind of suspect that is how you're coming up with soap in your little factory. That's how the rest of us do it.
Gasoline, there's an example of a mostly natural product. Refined but not synthesized.
Just curious, not debating
So in your opinion no soap is natural?
My decision to not sell is more personal. I've been making lye based soap for over a year now. Early on people browbeat me into selling, thank God it was on a very small level and short lived. I'm embarrassed about that early soap, it was lousy. . My soaps are much better now and I see them getting better. My personal goal is to be an artisan, not a soap company. I'd much rather have people asking for some of my soap because they love it (yes I have a few) than me trying to convince them to buy it. I have great respect for quality soap companies but I also at times can tell when someone just wants to turn a buck. They diminish the craft and make it harder for all as stated above.
And then there are well respected soap experts who promote businesses by inexperienced soapers.
www.soapqueen.com/business/interview-with-lauren-of-single-barrel-soaps
She made soap for Christmas (she says "last" which I take to mean 2014) and started her company the beginning of 2015.
May I just call you Tommy.I'm not tomahawk (my new nickname for ToMH), but if you cook an animal over a fire pit and then some rain seeps in the ashes making a potash which then mixes with the fat to make a soap - then yes, THAT soap might be considered natural. Although, as the cooking etc was performed by someone, it is arguable still not natural.
Now, if someone is selling soap made when lightning hits a tree, which catches fire and falls on a wild pig.............
Sorry soap is not 100% natural. Sodium Hydroxide is Manufactured and is not Natural. I tell my customers that ask it is all natural that it is as natural as I can get it. I refuse to mis-lead customers and use it as a selling strategy. And as Shari mentioned, colorants, EO and FO's all play a part.Relle Don't get jealous ��
I think you misunderstood me, my soap Is100% natural, I'm not miss leading anyone, it was just hard at first because it was a different marketing strategy from what I was used to, but a soap being 100% natural is the biggest weapon a soap maker has in the marketing battle, other wise it's just soap and you'll be going up against the big boys like LUSH
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