French green clay hastens spoilage?

[annie7216]

Hi everyone,
Hope you all had a great Halloween! I seem to be noticing a trend in my soaps but I can't find anything on the internet about it. Have any of you found that French Green Clay tends to cause cp soap to develop spoilage? I've tried so many green natural colorants, chlorophyll, parsley powder, and both of those caused spoilage rather quickly. I thought I hit the solution with French Green clay, but now I'm noticing that only those bars that have the green clay in them develop dos. I guess I shouldn't be surprised since a portion of French Green clay is comprised of decomposed plant matter, but as I said, I never heard anyone else complain. Anyone else have this problem? Thanks so much

 

[The Efficacious Gentleman]

A lot of people use it with no issues. What sort of amounts do you use?

Eta but natural green is hard to get perfect for many

 

[Pepsi Girl]

Nope I use French Green Clay a lot, it's one of my husband's favorites.
I would also wonder about your recipe?

 

[cmzaha]

Not here either, I use a lot of french green clay and several of the other clays with no issues.

 

[pamielynn]

Not me either.

 

[snappyllama]

If you're having spoilage on multiple batches, I'd suspect something those batches have in common...

 

[lionprincess00]

What oils do you use?

 

[Seawolfe]

I use French green clay from SMR a lot, and haven't had any issues with it.

 

[Jstar]

Im also wondering what oils you are using?

 

[coffeetime]

I also use French green clay with no issues and no dos after over a year.

 

[annie7216]

French green clay

Wow so it's definitely something I'm doing. That's what I was afraid of. My recipes are basically 32%coconut oil, 32%palm oil, 32% soybean oil, and 4% castor. I use about 2 tsp of French green clay for a 2 lb batch. I'm wondering if it could be my soybean oil. It still smells good but it is on the older side. I bought a large amount of organic soybean oil 1 year ago from Craigslist and have been crossing my fingers that it would last. But I do know that it is not the most stable oil.
I am going to make a small batch now subbing in olive oil instead of soybean and I'll see what happens. Thank you for all of the replies.

 

[annie7216]

French green clay

Oh and I do an 8% superfat.

 

[Earthen_Step]

Wow so it's definitely something I'm doing. That's what I was afraid of. My recipes are basically 32%coconut oil, 32%palm oil, 32% soybean oil, and 4% castor. I use about 2 tsp of French green clay for a 2 lb batch. I'm wondering if it could be my soybean oil. It still smells good but it is on the older side. I bought a large amount of organic soybean oil 1 year ago from Craigslist and have been crossing my fingers that it would last. But I do know that it is not the most stable oil.
I am going to make a small batch now subbing in olive oil instead of soybean and I'll see what happens. Thank you for all of the replies.

I use a lot of french green as well, with 0 problems.

I would guess the Soybean oil, it doesn't have that long of a shelf life (12-18 months). It would probably be fine in much smaller % combined with a lower SF. It's a risk with the source + it's age.

 

[Obsidian]

I have to agree, soybean oil can hasten spoilage. I would replace it entirely with olive oil.

 

[HerbalEarthling]

If you're looking for a natural green, get yourself some spirulina. I'm addicted to it!

 

[Earthen_Step]

If you're looking for a natural green, get yourself some spirulina. I'm addicted to it!

I have some, but keep holding off on using it. How does it hold up in sunlight compared to other leafy greens?

 

[HerbalEarthling]

I have some, but keep holding off on using it. How does it hold up in sunlight compared to other leafy greens?

One of the batches that I lightly used spirulina faded quite a bit. But I had a blend of spirulina and comfrey so I don't know which faded more.

Another batch that I made with spirulina that was pretty dark didn't fade at all that I could tell. They were about the same age when I took them to the market, in the sun.

Don't know if that helps.

 

[Obsidian]

I use spiralina too, after about 4 months it faded to a olive green. Its stayed this color for well over a year now. Parsley stayed greener for me but I used the powder right in the batter and it was scratchy. Infused parsley might be worth trying.

 

[Consuela]

I also use French Green Clay - haven't had anything like that happen.