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Sean89

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I just made my first batch of soap and I'm pretty sure I royally ****ed it up. I am going to give a detailed description of what I did, and hopefully someone can tell me what I did wrong, and if there's any way to rectify the situation.
I used a basic recipe that I found on the internet: 7.5 oz. olive oil, 7.5 oz. canola oil, 5 oz. distilled water, and 2 oz. lye. I bought a digital scale for like 15 bucks on Amazon. Even though it goes to two decimal places, it's not precise enough to measure in hundredths of an ounce. So when I measured the oils, it would jump from 7.48 oz. to 7.54 oz. (or something similar, I don't remember exactly). I ended up measuring 7.54 oz. on each of the oils, 1.98 oz. on the lye (I think), and I think the water was between 5 and 5.05 oz. I figured that it was better to have too much oil and too little lye instead of the other way around.
I underestimated oil's ability to heat up quickly. I heated it on my stove on medium heat until it got to over 280 degrees fahrenheit. I used a cheap infrared thermometer to measure it. The lye and water solution heated to about 180 degrees. I waited for the oil to cool down, and by the time I mixed the lye-water and the oil, I think the oil was like 140 degrees, and the lye-water was 115 degrees. I then used an electric mixer to reach what I think was trace.
I used a 4-inch abs pipe with a cap as a mold. I sprayed the inside with vegetable oil cooking spray and then poured the "soap" into it. I covered it with plastic wrap and then wrapped it in a blanket and let it sit outside for 2 days.
It is now 2 days later. I thought the soap was supposed to be solid enough to cut with a knife. The soap resembled cake frosting. Not only that, it wouldn't come out of the mold easily so I ended up scooping it out with my bare hands. I made sure to keep vinegar close by just in case I really screwed this thing up even worse than I thought. At first, it felt okay, but then when I got to the bottom of the mold, it was somewhat irritating. It wasn't a really bad burn, just irritating. The vinegar took care of it, no problem. Of course, now my hands smell like vinegar, but that's beside the point. Instead of bars, I ended up making misshapen lumps of soap. Also, it was a pain to wash the soap off my hands. I currently have the lumps of soap sitting on a film of plastic wrap inside a cardboard box. The box has been wrapped with blankets.
Sorry for the long-winded spiel, I was just trying to be as detailed as possible.
 
It sounds to me like you didnt reach a complete trace. You have to make sure that when you "think" you have reached trace you can draw an "8" into the mixture and you can still visibly see it after you have taken the spoon out of the mixture. Also, How warm is it outside were you are??? cooler temperatures means it will take longer to cure, Especially when you are already making a soft bar like the one that you listed above. My plain olive oil bars took 3 days before it was firm enough for me to take it out of the mold to cut it. If you want it to firm up faster you need to add harder oils like lard or coconut oil. when you heat up your oils (dont feel bad i made a similar mistake the first time with heating everything up) keep your heat on low. it takes a while but by the time your oils are were you want them (between 100-120) your lye should have cooled down to about the same temperature.
AND get a more accurate scale.
 
I just ran your recipe through soapcalc.net and even with only adding 1.98 you still added quite abit of lye. i think most people soap between 5-10% superfat and your recipe superfats at 2%
Were did you get that recipe again?
Not everything on the internet are from reliable sources. Be sure to run everything through the soapcalc before trying it as well.
http://www.soapcalc.net/calc/SoapCalcWP.asp

For a first time soap maker i suggest something more along the lines of
50% Olive oil
30% Coconut oil
20% Crisco

It produces a nice hard bar that lands in the ranges that soapcalc suggests. and the oils are decently common.
 
I agree with CaliChan. Perhaps it didn't reach trace. I'd recommend you get a stick blender. It will give you a really fast trace. And the oils you used are all liquid, so it will take longer to harden up. Try using 20 to 30% coconut oil. You really need it for lather anyway.
 
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I stumbled upon this video. That's where I got the recipe. It seemed like the easiest one I could find, plus I could easily find the ingredients at the grocery store. I used a stick blender, but you have to hold the button, it doesn't have an on/off switch. Perhaps I got a little impatient with it. I will be returning both my stick blender and my scale in exchange for better ones. Can you recommend a good scale-maker? Also, would it be possible to mix the soap in a large glass mixing bowl and just leave it in there and have it double as a mold? And soapcalc.net lists 3 different types of coconut oil, which one do I use?
 
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I'm new too but I'm going to answer this so you have an ASAP answer. NO GLASS. Not even Pyrex. There is a danger of the lye heating enough to actually break the glass. Also you need a liner that won't stick to the soap. Plastic molds usually require a coating of mineral oil. Wood molds take a paper liner and silicon molds are fine to pour into. Good luck!
 
Ive seen that video before.. as she says in the beginning of the video shes by no means a professional soap maker. this was a recipe after only 2 weeks of soap making.
I would personally omit the canola all together. it has a short shelf life. and it makes the bar even softer. It would most likely be better just to go with 100% olive oil
then if you want to do a 15 oz mixture like the one in the video you will need 1.9 oz lye
 
haha sorry i totally forgot to tell you about the coconut oil oh and the mold question. If your going to use something that hard as a mold it needs to be lined or your going to have one hell of a time trying to get it out. I use an old (lined) Pringles can for a mold. ill post a video below from a much more experienced soap maker on how to do that.
And just about anything you will find in the store will be 76 degrees coconut oil. 96 isnt commonly sold and fractionated is very expensive. So to answer your question use 76.
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I realize now that it has the "crafty gemini" in it as a special guest but im assuming this is after she gained more experience in soap making. But Soaping101 is a great person to follow
 
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the 5 gallon bucket should be fine.
I use a silicone mold so i dont have to line it.
but im pretty sure thats what everyone uses to line it with
 
I used a stick blender, but you have to hold the button, it doesn't have an on/off switch. Perhaps I got a little impatient with it. I will be returning both my stick blender and my scale in exchange for better ones. Can you recommend a good scale-maker?

My stick blender has the button you hold too. They really aren't made to be run continuously, you can burn out the motor. I use the stick blender for a couple seconds, turn it off and stir with it for a second, then check for trace. Wash, rinse, repeat.
 
That's a six pound mold. It's a good mold I think, but are you sure you want to start that big, in case you mess up? you will be wasting a lot of ingredients if your recipe turns out wrong. I'd recommend only doing a 2-3 pound batch, to save yourself a lot of money and supplies.
 
Agree about subbing one of your liquid oils for coconut oil which will create a harder bar and nice lather. You can get that at the grocery store too. A 5-gal pail is HUGE for a small amount of soap!!!!

Definitely don't use glass for the reasons listed about. Cheap plastic paint buckets in much smaller sizes work just fine. I love hard plastic mixing bowls with a pour spout -- also cheap and easy to find - I've found em at the dollar store.

Freezer paper works great for wood mold liners. Agree, you're probably going to want to start with smaller batches at first. Keep us posted on how it goes!!!
 
Sean, I am newer to soap making... well only been doing it a year. My favorite mold is a SHOE BOX, cheap, easy to line and I can toss it and have no guilt. I line all my molds with freezer paper... and there is a great tutorial on how to line a box... hmmm oh yes, here it is! http://youtu.be/3mSg-OQ51hM just my 2c
 
If you are buying everything at walmart here is a list. SS large bowl, plastic pitcher 1 gal, plastic spoon long handle, Coconut Oil, Crisco or lard and Safflower or almond or olive oils. I did buy a scale there but it was fraction so I do not recomend there scales. You can use plastic pitcher for lye and water and mix it in it. SS bowl will be final mixing bowl. I use smaller bowls to measure and melt then pour oils into ss before adding lye mixture.

My favorite recipe right now is 30% lard, 40% CO and 30% other like almond or olive or whatever you want for that oil. This makes a good hard bard that sets up fast and can be added too with scents or salt or milk. I am using Coconut milk as most of my water but I do not added it to lye but the melted oils. I use a small amount of water portion as water to disolve lye rest is the milk. Just did a batch today it will be cut tomorrow at 12pm if not sooner.

You always want a hard oil to start learning with at the start. It makes it a bit easier since you will not have to wait days like you do for a all liquid oil soap like say olive oil only.

Trust this forum over everything else on the net. Read back posts and use the search here on the forum. You can do advance search for topic word. It is faster that way. This place is better than any book so I would not bother with them either. Do not worry too much remember it is just soap. Time is on your side and you can always use a messed up batch for house cleaning. :p You can also rebatch to help straighten pout a mess.
 
Hi Sean, i think majority of your questions have been answered.. we have lots of experts here.. try it out more and you will get it..

I think there is a need to do more reading and understand the nature of the oils that you will be using for the soap. The importance to understand if you are using soft oils or hard oils and how it will affect the soap. Use a soapcalc to run through formulas you see online.

Happy soaping.
 

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