First goat milk/oatmeal soap is UGLY but amazing

[Syri]

Here's the recipe I used for HP:

goat milk 8 oz.
lard 12 oz.
CO 8 oz.
OO 10 oz.
grapeseed oil 1 oz.
water 4 oz.
lye 4.3 oz. (mixed lye with water,then added goat milk to the pot after everything mixed)
1 c. powdered oats
scented with lavender and vanilla EO's- I don't measure these I just add a little for a soft scent

Took about 2 hours to cook on low,I think I added too much oatmeal. :lolno: I colored it purple and red marbled together and it looks like purple and red poo squares with the oatmeal in it.

I posted pics of it and people are making fun of me big time for my poo soap,but I tried it and it is astonishing! My hands are so soft and my skin looks better- if that makes sense! They were dry and cracked and scaly from the winter air...

Now they are soft and shiny.

No one is ever going to buy this soap but it is probably the best batch I'll ever make as far as skin softening quality.

 

[Dana89]

Congrats! I think it is better to have an ugly but amazing soap rather than a beautiful but not so great soap. Just hang on to your recipe and you can work on the way it looks if you don,t like it.

 

[IrishLass]

Congratulations! And I second what Dana said^^^!


IrishLass

 

[Susie]

^What they said!

You may love the looks of that soap if you CP it. Much smoother texture that way. But at any rate, congrats!

 

[Syri]

I'm going to start trying out CP this weekend. :grin:

I watched a tutorial on youtube where a lady made goats milk soap and managed to add the lye slowly in the iced down milk and it stayed a creamy smooth white until the end.

I want white!! :mrgreen:

I drool when I see the creamy soft soaps everywhere- and mine turn out so dry and chunky looking.

 

[Dana89]

I have only made 1 goat,s milk soap. Mine was CP but I think I read on here somewhere about adding the Goat,s milk after trace. So I did a water reduction with my lye solution and added TD and the milk at trace, also after I poured I put it in the freezer for 24 hours because I was afraid gel phase may discolor it and it came out nice and creamy white.
I haven,t done HP so I am not sure how to keep a milk white that way. I am sure there are a lot on this board that can help with that.

 

[navigator9]

We work very hard to make our soaps pretty, but as you found out, looks really don't matter at all. What it's really all about is how it makes your skin feel. Congrats on your beautiful, ugly soap!

 

[jnl]

I CP'd my first soap which was a goats milk, oatmeal and honey soap. i poured a loaf and some extra small pieces.

the small pieces did not gel, and they stayed smooth and light colored. BUT when i use it, the oatmeal pieces are scratchy. man, it was such a nice soap. it was like i had totally slathered lotion all over my body and face after i got out of the shower, except not greasy, and i didnt put ANY lotion on!

the loaf gelled and is darker in color and an "oatmeal" texture, like cooked oatmeal. i have not used it yet because it needs to dry more still, but im pretty sure it will be less scratchy because the oatmeal was "cooked".

next time i will try making it using colloidal oatmeal instead (also called "oat milk" - warm the ground oats in water (or in this case, the goats milk) and let it sit for awhile then strain out and discard the solids). that will give me a totally smooth bar with the oatmeal proteins still in it. i dont know if the oatmeal solids are a benefit or not.

 

[snappyllama]

Colloidal oatmeal is actually a fine powder... there is nothing exfoliating about it. It is one additive I can definitely notice in the finished soap. I buy mine rather than grind up oatmeal since I don't think I could it it ground finely enough. Plus, it's really inexpensive.

Oat milk is a different product... just as you described it. I haven't tried that out yet so cannot speak it it firsthand.

sorry, I just looked it up, I guess mixing colliodal oatmeal + water does produce oat milk. I thought that it was taking soaked oatmeal water... sorry about that!

 

[jnl]

SOME people call finely ground oatmeal "colloidal", but its not really. anything colloidal supposed to be a liquid with microscopic particles that are the size of a molecule suspended in it. for oats, it has to be soaked and then the solids filtered out. they cant grind oats that fine, and when you wet the oats they swell a significant amount. so when they sell "colloidal oats" its not really, its just a super fine grind that will get chunkier when it gets wet and wont be a true colloid.

but it doesnt really matter what people call it, if you want totally smooth, make the filtered oat milk. if you want a bit of texture, "cook" the finely ground oat flour. if you want a rougher exfoliation make sure the oats dont cook.

 

[Susie]

SOME people call finely ground oatmeal "colloidal", but its not really. anything colloidal supposed to be a liquid with microscopic particles that are the size of a molecule suspended in it. for oats, it has to be soaked and then the solids filtered out. they cant grind oats that fine, and when you wet the oats they swell a significant amount. so when they sell "colloidal oats" its not really, its just a super fine grind that will get chunkier when it gets wet and wont be a true colloid.

but it doesnt really matter what people call it, if you want totally smooth, make the filtered oat milk. if you want a bit of texture, "cook" the finely ground oat flour. if you want a rougher exfoliation make sure the oats dont cook.

Excuse me, but aren't you the same jnl that made her first batch of soap on 1-25-15?

 

[jnl]

Excuse me, but aren't you the same jnl that made her first batch of soap on 1-25-15?

yeah, so?
what does that have to do with knowing about colloids?

 

[Susie]

Because in soapmaking terms, colloidal oatmeal is the dry, finely ground oatmeal that you add to the water, not the particles suspended in water already. Oatmilk is what you described.

http://www.wisegeek.org/what-is-colloidal-oatmeal.htm

 

[Dorymae]

Well, technically she is right. Colloidal refers to a solution not a dry product.

Yes I know it is how they refer to the ground fine oatmeal, but just because they call it that doesn't make it correct technically.

I can fully understand, being new to soap making that she would point it out because it was most certainly not the first place she heard of it, therefore she knew it to be technically wrong.

We just accept it as soap makers and understand what they mean is a dry product because they have "taught" us to accept it.

I can only imagine the things that DeeAnna sees but just shakes her head over.

 

[jnl]

many people use terms incorrectly all the time

like people call bison buffalo, when they are totally different species. even bison farmers sometimes call them buffalo.
just like orange sweet potatoes in north america are usually called "yams" but technically they are not yams. Yams are a totally different species that grow in africa and have low nutritional value and are white or purple or pink but NOT orange.


some people do use proper colloidal oatmeal (you can call it oat milk if you want) in soap or lotions. i have seen recipes using both, and seen companies mistakenly label ground oats as colloidal. which is why i put oat milk in brackets so no one would get confused.

 

[jnl]

the confusion probably originated from people selling ground oatmeal to add to bath water to make a colloidal oatmeal bath. if you add ground oats to warm water and dont strain it, the water would be colloidal oatmeal + oat chunks. so the powder is USED to make colloidal oatmeal, but alone is not actually colloidal oatmeal.

just dont pay any more for the powder than you would for normal oats because its only ground fine as you could probably do in your own espresso/spice grinder. there is nothing special about it.

if you want to list your product as gluten-free, make sure you buy gluten-free oats because they are contaminated with wheat otherwise.
i doubt many celaics care about wheat in a topical product because its the intestines that react to the wheat. but some people like to label things as gluten-free.
i am allergic to wheat. and also oats. but topically they are totally fine, i just cant eat them.


if you want to use it in lotion, i would recommend straining it. you dont want any chunks in lotion, no matter how small.