Essential Oil question.

[hoegarden]

Yeap. I will do that from now on. Going to lock my wintergreen away n labelled it highly dangerous..

Now I have to research on other EO that I can use to make balm n massage oil for muscle relaxing.. lavendar is not strong enough for me and my mum.. we get real stiff shoulders.. any EO to introduce?

i can make my muscle relaxing series i hope..

 

[Genny]

I've got a blend of musle relaxer eo's from a supplier, the eo's are Peru Balsam, Thyme, Ylang-ylang, marjoram & peppermint.

 

[whitetulips]

Can you mix an essential oil, like orange EO, with a fragrance oil, like mango FO?

 

[AlchemyandAshes]

Yep, you can mix EOs & FOs

 

[hoegarden]

http://www.experience-essential-oils.com/wintergreen-essential-oil.html

Read this on wintergreen. Is this guy from the don't know what association that is mention in this thread?


http://silkyscents.com/r-21.htm

I come across this link on EO blending. It look interesting. Maybe we can incorporate into our soap?

 

[AlchemyandAshes]

http://www.experience-essential-oils.com/wintergreen-essential-oil.html

Read this on wintergreen. Is this guy from the don't know what association that is mention in this thread?

Yes! That is Young Living essential oil PROPOGANDA.
If you want to know what NOT to do, read that link. "Documented benefits" does NOT equal PROVEN benefits, nor does it make it safe.
Argghhh...I don't know how that company has stayed in business. :think:

He claims to have learned his techniques from a "Native American Medicine Man", which I find incredibly insulting that he would use the respected image of an indigineous healer to promote his quackery.
I didn't realize that shamans distilled essential oils and practiced aromatherapy...:roll:

 

[hoegarden]

But he does sound arrogant even on the page itself.

 

[DeeAnna]

...other EO that I can use to make balm n massage oil for muscle relaxing..

Well, YMMV, so keep that in mind. Here are some EOs that are suggested for arthritis or sore muscles and are reasonably safe. I do not have personal experience with most of these -- I am passing on information that I have collected:

Roman chamomile, Anthemis nobilis
Cypress, Cupressus sempervirens
Eucalyptus globulous
Eucalyptus radiata
Helichrysum Italicum sp Serotinum
Lavender, Lavendula angustifolia (yeah, I know this is not working for you, but just for the record... :mrgreen: )
Manuka, Leptospermum scoparium
Sweet Marjoram, Origanum marjorana
Black pepper, Piper nigrum
Peppermint, Mentha piperita (in moderation -- can be an irritant)
Rosemary, Rosmarinus officinalis
Spearmint, Mentha spicata

Also, a massage therapist friend makes an infusion of ground cayenne pepper (NOT the EO!!!) for use on sore muscles. I would use this for spot treatment only and wash hands WELL afterwards -- getting this on the face or in the eyes would be no fun. Here is a recipe:

Cayenne Salve
1/2 cup olive oil (or any other oil suitable for massage)
Two heaping teaspoons of cayenne powder (about 15 grams)
1/2 ounce of beeswax

Heat the oil and cayenne in a double boiler or carefully in a microwave until the oil is warm. Turn off the heat and let it sit for a couple of hours -- up to 24 hours if desired. Strain the mixture through a cheesecloth. Reserve the infused oil and discard the powder.

Heat the beeswax until it is just melted in a double boiler. Stir in the infused oil. Warm gently if the mixture starts to solidify. Immediately pour the mixture into jars or tins. Makes roughly 4 ounces. Let it cool and then label it.

How to use: Cayenne salve can be used on aches and pains, from sore muscles and joints to bruises and even nerve pain. Use only on intact skin. On intact skin you may feel a bit of burning or heat in the area where it is used. It should be applied externally only. The salve should be used within 6 months for the best results. If using it for arthritic pain it may take up to a week or two to see results. In this case you want to use it daily to decrease chronic pain.



Caution: When cayenne comes in contact with mucous membranes or eyes it will burn! Be sure to wash your hands thoroughly after touching cayenne or use gloves to apply the salve to the desired area. If you are using the cayenne salve on your hands, consider applying it at night and then sleeping with gloves on.


--DeeAnna

 

[hoegarden]

Thanks DeeAnna..

 

[Koshka]

Damn, thanks for letting me know! Although I always send samples for testing to the lab (owner is a soapmaker herself)... Everything was approved. I'll research some more. Thanks for the advice!

You use 1 oz ppo of Cassia? :shock:
6.25% is WAY too much to be safe...I use 0.7% (0.5 oz in 66 oz base oil) and you can still smell it. Cassia is a known dermal irritant similar to Cinnamon and many sources do not recommend using it on skin at all.

 

[AlchemyandAshes]

Damn, thanks for letting me know! Although I always send samples for testing to the lab (owner is a soapmaker herself)... Everything was approved. I'll research some more. Thanks for the advice!

A lab owned by a soapmaker? That's very interesting...
What tests does she perform on the products? I would be interested in sending a few of my products to a lab for evaluation...out of curiosity if nothing else.

 

[Koshka]

She does PH and toxicity (mostly because of essential and FO oils) testing and when I send samples to her I need to include recipe, amount of oils, and scents, date when the batch was made... when I first started making soap she helped me a lot with recipes and amounts to use.

we used to work together for a huge pharma company in New York a couple of years back and since then she has opened her own lab where she does drug and cosmetic testing for big companies

A lab owned by a soapmaker? That's very interesting...
What tests does she perform on the products? I would be interested in sending a few of my products to a lab for evaluation...out of curiosity if nothing else.

 

[hoegarden]

I wonder if we can get the lab to do a test on wintergreen EO n determine the toxicity of it on skin?

since there has been discussion on its usage here n online.. itz always better when a true report is around. At least we know we base our discussion on facts.

 

[Koshka]

PM me with EO's info (manufacturer, supplier and such) and I'll see if I can send her a sample.

I wonder if we can get the lab to do a test on wintergreen EO n determine the toxicity of it on skin?

since there has been discussion on its usage here n online.. itz always better when a true report is around. At least we know we base our discussion on facts.

 

[paillo]

I wonder if we can get the lab to do a test on wintergreen EO n determine the toxicity of it on skin?

since there has been discussion on its usage here n online.. itz always better when a true report is around. At least we know we base our discussion on facts.

Personally I am scared to death of wintergreen. Made a bunch of M&P with herbs for closet fresheners a couple of years ago, but then after reading the warnings I trashed them all (so not even a stray dog, much less a child, could dig
them out) and have my wintergreen EO stashed somewhere I'll never use it. Am I justified in being so scared of this EO?

actually, I'll start a new thread on wintergreen in the aromatherapy section....

 

[Soapman Ryan]

I like the scent of Frankincense and Myrrh. I was thinking about using a blend of 50:50. Has anyone used these EO's together? What percent should I use, is the 3% good for this?