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I don't mind this at all - as you said, if it ensures the safety of passengers, why not?
However - the other side is that you never know who is patting you down or looking at your screen. How do you know some sicko/whacko isn't patting you down, looking at your personal information, like license or passport, and planning on paying a visit to you in the middle of the night?
And if they do it for airlines, why not for bus or train passengers? I used to take the train routinely between CT and VA for school and could've literally brougt a bomb on the train and no one would have known.
However - the other side is that you never know who is patting you down or looking at your screen. How do you know some sicko/whacko isn't patting you down, looking at your personal information, like license or passport, and planning on paying a visit to you in the middle of the night?
And if they do it for airlines, why not for bus or train passengers? I used to take the train routinely between CT and VA for school and could've literally brougt a bomb on the train and no one would have known.
They can pat me down all they want but I don't want them touching my 13 year old daughter...
I do not think a pat down is effective. It only provides the general public with a false sense of security, IMHO. Excuse me for being blunt, but if my life's mission is to blow up an airplae I am going to hide my materials where they can't pat if you get my drift (body cavity).
My grandmother lives in SR. apts & to 'keep the residents safe' everyone is supposed to sign in & out when they enter or leave the building. It's the honor system, no one is at the sign-in table. I write "Peter Pan", "Micky Mouse", "False Sense of Security:, etc just to prove it's not effective, but those old people are so glad guests are requires to sign-in :roll: .
I do not think a pat down is effective. It only provides the general public with a false sense of security, IMHO. Excuse me for being blunt, but if my life's mission is to blow up an airplae I am going to hide my materials where they can't pat if you get my drift (body cavity).
My grandmother lives in SR. apts & to 'keep the residents safe' everyone is supposed to sign in & out when they enter or leave the building. It's the honor system, no one is at the sign-in table. I write "Peter Pan", "Micky Mouse", "False Sense of Security:, etc just to prove it's not effective, but those old people are so glad guests are requires to sign-in :roll: .
cwarren
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I don't mind if it keeps us SAFE .. I just wish they were professionals and not mim wage flunkies !
I guess it would feel better if they were paid more ... LOL
I guess it would feel better if they were paid more ... LOL
ChrissyB
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Yeah...I'd go through it without any trouble...only cos I generally do what I'm told in situations like that.
But I agree with Tab, touch my kids and that crosses the line. A scan will do just fine for them, thank you.
But I agree with Tab, touch my kids and that crosses the line. A scan will do just fine for them, thank you.
yeahhhh I had troubles with this when I used to have dreadlocks... maybe they thought i was smuggling ganja or something, but i was "randomly" selected every time I went through security... At least they could give you a piece of candy or something that makes you feel like you come away from the experience with something to show for it other than the heebie jeebies.....
now I make it a point to do something that makes them feel very uncomfortable when they decide to pat me down... then maybe theyll remember for next time... oooo thats the dude who put his ____ on my _____ and whispered sweet nothings in my ear......
Yeahhh I havent been strip searched in some time...
PASS!
now I make it a point to do something that makes them feel very uncomfortable when they decide to pat me down... then maybe theyll remember for next time... oooo thats the dude who put his ____ on my _____ and whispered sweet nothings in my ear......
Yeahhh I havent been strip searched in some time...
PASS!
donniej
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There are allot of *really* smart (and crazy) people out there, do you really think that an entry level TSA agent can stop people like this?
Do you think every TSA agent can stop every person like this?
Do you think every TSA agent can stop every person like this?
donniej said:
actually I have been wanting to test the if they can stop any person trying to sneak something past security... as long as it isnt metal, sheeeeet could bring damn near anything thru...
I think it really makes a false sense of security... I mean... howd that shoe-bomb guy get thru? If I were to strap like 15K worth of $100's to my chest, would anyone notice? If I were to duct tape a bag of some illicit substance anywhere they couldnt easily detect it.... would they ever notice? sadly... Id bet on the "No" side of things much more than the Yes side...
Ive heard they are starting to institute full-body xray scans in some airports, just like how your bags go thru the scanner, you would too...and they could see errrrrrrything .... errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrything
ChrissyB
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Ian, they do the full body scans over here.
By all reports they are very intrusive and rather embarassing.
I'd rather be patted down than scanned like that.
There was a story in the news here that during on of those scans they made a woman remove her prosthetic breast. She was a breast cancer survivor.
So not on.
By all reports they are very intrusive and rather embarassing.
I'd rather be patted down than scanned like that.
There was a story in the news here that during on of those scans they made a woman remove her prosthetic breast. She was a breast cancer survivor.
So not on.
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Profiling...the only way to fly.
cwarren said:
It doesn't keep us safe. If they can't keep weapons out of prisons, why would they be able to keep them off of aircraft?
Not sayin' they should give up - just that it's all stupid anyway.
Fortunately I have no fear of death.
I do have to say it would be really funny to be selected for a pat down, only to mention to the worker that you just had a huge lunch with broccoli, tomatoes, a garlic-wine cream sauce and you have IBS....
I have been patted down before and had no problems with it; however, I read the new pat down procedures and would not want to do that. They are basically groping you...it all sounds bad but the worst was when they said they will spread your cheeks feel around
I'm pretty much apathetic about the entire thing. I don't believe that it's going to stop the people who are seriously determined to do harm, but I also don't have an issue with being scanned and/or patted down so if it stops (or deters) even a few people from doing something malicious then I'm fine with it for myself. I wouldn't have a problem with my son being scanned, either, but a pat-down for him...yeahno, I'd probably get myself in trouble then.
Sibi
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I'm ok with being patted down if its a quick, general pat down. If its more detailed (like between the cheeks and stuff) then I have a problem, for me or my son. That I consider an invasion of my privacy and my rights.
well results are in, after all the huffin and puffin, they did NEITHER to me at the airport lol....
They apparently dont have bodyscans or ppl to strip search at orlando international airport bwahahhaah
They apparently dont have bodyscans or ppl to strip search at orlando international airport bwahahhaah
