Daycare Rules for a Reason!

[Guest]

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/loc ... Raped.html

I have to continuously tell my staff there are rules in place for many reasons when operating a daycare. The story above happened in the area of the city where I operate. I pray they catch this DEVIL! This was a tradgedy waiting to happen.

This 11 year old girl took her little sister to daycare before this assault happened. DAYCARE PROVIDERS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO ACCEPT CHILDREN AT THE DOOR, BY THEMSELVES OR DROPPED OFF BY OTHER CHILDREN. An adult must sign a child into care. We cannot even take children who "walk to daycare after school" alone.

Over the years, we've had moms, get on the el (elevated trains) and send the kid around the corner on their own to my facility. I immediately call the parent for pickup. We had a mom go on a crack binge and the man she left her child with overnight tried to drop the child at care, too late for school. We told him, find the mom. No school age kids in care during school hours.

Kensington, where this crime happened is a terrible area. These moms have got to have their CHILDREN escorted at all times in our area. It is the prostitution and dope capital of Philadelphia.

 

[Deda]

"I hope the police catch him before the neighborhood does"

OMG - how awful. That poor little girl. It looks like the police may have a good chance of catching him. I'm sure you will sleep safer when this creep is off the streets.

 

[Guest]

"I hope the police catch him before the neighborhood does"

OMG - how awful. That poor little girl. It looks like the police may have a good chance of catching him. I'm sure you will sleep safer when this creep is off the streets.

They WILL catch him, Kensington is BAD but it is also very close knit. Shame to say it but I've been around there 10 years. You get to know every addict, every prostitute, every killer, every dealer. The photos are good, believe me, at least 20 people KNOW who he is.

I'm right around the corner from where this happened, we had a new daycare open. The stupid thing is, for 10 years I operated 24 hours a day, some folks come in the daycare business and want to open at 6am and close at 6pm. You can't do that. These women get low paying jobs where they have to be at work at 5am, or don't get off until 11pm. Thats the majority of my customers.

This daycare had to have made an agreement with mom, who had to be at work early. They let one kid drop off the other kid, with both kids leaving the house by themselves. The daycare should have opened early so mom could drop off BOTH children, and the daycare escort the 11 year old to school. So here are the basic economics. They accepted $500 (which is what the state pays one child traditional care) a month, and put the older sister at risk. When the state may have paid $1,400 a month if the daycare opened at 4am and they took BOTH children (non-traditional care).

One more K&A is so bad story! I had a 5am mom one time, I pull up at 4:45am, into a recently vacated parking space (I saw the car pull off), a man was staggering oddly 4 doors down from my daycare, and a woman was crouched behind a parked car. The man had JUST been shot in the head, 15 minutes before my daycare kids arrived.

Thank god the mom made the choice NOT to work so early. I tell these girls these $7 an hour jobs are NOT worth the life of their children!

 

[ChrissyB]

Ugh, that's so terrible.
Makes me want to hug my babies extra tight when the go to bed tonight.

 

[Guest]

From www.philly.com

About 8:20 a.m., the girl escorted her sister inside the day care and according to one witness, the man tried to follow them inside but was turned away by a staff member, police said.
When the 11-year-old left the day-care center and continued on to her school, Russell H. Conwell Middle School, (my note: my van is parked within site of this location, this girl and the perp had to have passed by at least two school crossing guards, the girl was only two blocks from her school) the man again approached the girl but this time, he threatened to shoot her if she did not walk with him, Darby said.

He forced her to walk about six blocks to the rear of a residence on Westmoreland Street near Emerald, where he repeatedly raped her, police said.
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This mess has me boiling bubblin mad! The daycare staff actually saw this man and didn't do anything! :shock: :x :evil:

You can see why I need a break from this business. In 10 years at my 2 locations in this city we have had 6 shootings within arms reach of the daycares. One of my daycare staff had the kids lined up for a walk. She said she felt like a real mother that day, we had a drive by shooting accross the street from my other location, she had to fling the daycare door open and shove all the children in the daycare and hit the floor.

She didn't want to talk to the detectives but I told her she had to, since she saw the shooters, the victims and the car. Can you believe the victims own family didn't even cooperate. :evil:

So these lazy brained daycare employees did NOTHING to protect this child, just allowed the man to wait outside for the girl.

You wouldn't believe how common this CRAP is in Philly, about two months ago we had an asian parent come for her child, and when my daughter opened the door, a mexican man followed her in. My daughter noticed the parent had a frown on her face but she said nothing, so my daughter asked was the guy with her. She said no, and was trembling so bad my daughter pushed the guy out the door and he walked away with an evil grin on his face. SICK!

Today one of my staff had to walk an 11 year old girl (daycare client)to school because some other girls said they were going to "jump her". The girl let us know about threats on her myspace page but hadn't told her mom because she was "sleep". I'll be calling mom this morning. :roll:
(my staff went as a courtesy because the girl lives on the same street as the daycare but doesn't come to us until after school)

 

[Guest]

Thank the Lord! They have the guy's name and picture and the cops are tearing up Kensington, looking for him.

I am so thankful the police ARE treating this with a high priority!!!!

 

[justjen]

That is HORRIBLE!!!

 

[Tabitha]

So these lazy brained daycare employees did NOTHING to protect this child, just allowed the man to wait outside for the girl.

Unbelieveable!

 

[Guest]

Wow just wow !

Kitn

 

[studioalamode]

Very sad story. It just terrible.

 

[Guest]

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/loc ... Raped.html

The neighbors caught him!!!

now here is what alot of parents do ...

"The man had entered the daycare with the girl, her mother said Tuesday. She is baffled as to why daycare officials allowed him inside."

ahhh, DUH, why isn't mom taking responsibility for the dirty deal she made with the daycare facility, allowing an 11 year old to leave the house on her own with someone under the age of 5. How many kids are waking up in the morning in Kensington getting their siblings washed (maybe) and dressed, and taking them to school.

Years ago I had a daycare mom where I used to pick her children up from home, she had 5 or six at the time. Her oldest girl was about 2nd grade. I walked in the house and the little girl had a baby on her hip, a bookbag on her back, and she was putting jelly on the bread of all her siblings. While mom was sitting on the couch watching TV.

 

[carebear]

They caught him. And then illegally and brutally assaulted him.

Now they are a bunch of criminals too. Great.

 

[Guest]

They caught him. And then illegally and brutally assaulted him.

Now they are a bunch of criminals too. Great.

Care bear, alot of people have been commenting on the vigilante justice that took place, HOWEVER, you would have to know the neighborhood. Slipping out the neighborhood never to be caught could have been easy, and the guys how took it upon themselves to capture him could have faced a gun. So they had to "jump" him, and cops in Kensington can take up to an hour to respond, sometimes many hours.

Also in this particular community, a LARGE number of people KNEW who did it, the glasses, the outfit which he still had on and he used his brother's name, ALEX to approach the girl. He had an extensive past history of harrassing women in the neighborhood.

The two teens who captured the guy were 16 and 15 and very brave.

I think anyone would have to ask themselves "how would I subdue an unknown adult who may be carrying a weapon until police arrive"?

 

[carebear]

They caught him. And then illegally and brutally assaulted him.

Now they are a bunch of criminals too. Great.

Care bear, alot of people have been commenting on the vigilante justice that took place, HOWEVER, you would have to know the neighborhood. Slipping out the neighborhood never to be caught could have been easy, and the guys how took it upon themselves to capture him could have faced a gun. So they had to "jump" him, and cops in Kensington can take up to an hour to respond, sometimes many hours.

Also in this particular community, a LARGE number of people KNEW who did it, the glasses, the outfit which he still had on and he used his brother's name, ALEX to approach the girl. He had an extensive past history of harrassing women in the neighborhood.

The two teens who captured the guy were 16 and 15 and very brave.

I think anyone would have to ask themselves "how would I subdue an unknown adult who may be carrying a weapon until police arrive"?

Oh, so it's ok to attack people when
- its in a bad area
- you "know" they did it
- they have some sort of history (proven? convicted?)

and they didn't just knock him to the ground and hold him, now did they?

From the article posted:
""We just pounded on him because we wanted him arrested," said Torres. More and more people crowded around the teens, egging them on." and he then spent 2 days in the hospital.

I'm not saying he shouldn't do it, or that I'm not glad he's been captured. It's the assault on him that is wrong.

 

[Guest]

well care bear the only question I have for you was when was your last physical altercation as an adult?

I know at age 45, when my mentally ill 21 year old decided he was going to go bonkers and stand with my front door wide open in the middle of winter and not move. Well I tried to shove him away from the door, so I could lock or close the door...I couldn't make him budge. I felt like a kitten trying to move a brick house from it's foundations. (note to self=>work out more)

I could imagine, subduing a stranger and keeping yourself safe would take at least 1,000 times the force I tried to use to move my son, who incidentally wasn't at all trying to hurt me or escape.

 

[Guest]

***Oh, so it's ok to attack people when
- its in a bad area
- you "know" they did it
- they have some sort of history (proven? convicted?) ***

If you want my honest opinion, it is OKAY to kick the $I-IiT outta someone from my hood, caught on video tape following a little 11 year old and her baby sister, who then rapes her, and tries to sneak outta his momma's house the next day wearing the same clothes, YES YES YES, who has a history and that morning, this girl was the third female he attacked...yes, it's a-okay 8)

The afternoon he was caught, I was at one of the local schools picking up children, and every last parent, teacher and including the school principal was talking about "the hood" catching his a-$-$. As my daughter would say, he was a "done bun".

The real horror for him will be when he gets up State Road (I suggest all those really worried about the perps' safety contact the city holding cells, PIC and CFCF on State Road) our city jails are like the suburbs of Kensington. The guards and the prisoners are going to make his life heck up their due to the publicity and the familiar connections to Kensington and/or the victim's family.

 

[Tabitha]

I don't image says "hey guy you stay here untill the cops get here." would have worked very well.

The boys were very brave, very lucky and just a bit stupid because they could have been injured or killed. The rapist surely struggled & the boys surely had a difficult time detaining him. I can see how one thing led to another and it all snowballed. I don't think anyone would know what they would have done in the same situation. You can't be thinking straight in that type of situation.

I would have beaten the holy heck out of him if that was the only way to detain him long enough for the cops to arrive & get him off the streets.

 

[studioalamode]

I understand the emotions running high, and I believe in "justice" - just not vigilante justice. I'm not sure the catching needed to be done by the neighborhood boys right at that time - they could have alerted police as to his whereabouts. Not that he didn't "deserve" the beating. But deserving it and getting it are two dififerent things. Having said that, I'm glad he's caught and I'm happy for the family that they don't have to worry about him anymore. I'm hoping all the i's were dotted and t's were crossed in the excitement. It would be a shame if he got off on a technicality.