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@MarnieSoapien I hope your little ones have recovered from their sniffles by now:thumbs: Here in the UK loo roll is now back on the shelves but my order of isopropyl alcohol made over 3 weeks ago to make our own hand sanitiser has still not arrived due to unprecedented demand. I am getting weird looks wiping down my shopping trolley but I do offer to wipe other peoples for them and that brings a smile! The village I live in has called a meeting to make a plan to help the vulnerable and our little shop is making plans to home deliver, I feel very proud of how everyone is rallying round. My daughter on the other hand who is so desperate for her university to close so that she can avoid doing a debate then decides to head off to see a Lewis Capaldi concert crammed in with thousands of other people on the eve of the public events lockdown :eek:
 
To a point, we usually keep more than enough on hand (i.e. one package of Costco TP, a 4-pack of paper towels, an 8 pack of tissues.. stuff like that) but we live in a 2 bedroom basement suite (the spare bedroom is my soap room) with very little storage. We don't have room for stocking up on purchases. However, we do have enough to get us through this and our small freezer is stocked with pre-cooked meals, meat, and ingredients for making other meals.

Even when we lived in a 1 bedroom apartment for a year, I had extras of everything. I bought those under the bed boxes and you would be shocked how much will fit in those. Also, a small bookcase/shoe shelf in the closet corralled the shoes so I could use a small bookcase for extra canned goods. Just remember to rotate out the items under there so you don't have to throw stuff away. And as soon as you take an item out of the "extra" storage to use, put it on your grocery list so you don't ever run completely out.
 
The Spanish government has declared a state of emergency. At present this means that all stores, bars discos, etc., are closed, apart from supermarkets and pharmacies. Emergency legislation is now in motion for extending the lock-down on Monday, which shall consist of no movement on the streets unless you're going to/from work, hospital, to buy food or medicines, or to look after someone who is ill. Similar set up to Italy.

With my EPOC, coagulation problems and dicky heart, I'm a prime candidate for hospitalisation and for being a real pain in the butt for the medical services, so I've self-quarantined myself at home. I'm making gallons of hand sanitizer for friends and thinking about making some batches of soap for them as well.

Also on a total Netflix binge. Hooked on "Vikings", toying with watching "Rome" again, and generally relaxing. And praying for everyone, for all of us.

Take care of yourselves. Hugs (at a distance ;)) from Spain
 
I’m in the same situation. My husband is on the heart transplant list and is not worried at all. I’m the one taking all the precautions and he gives no fluffs!!! It’s so frustrating!! I cant Get through to him. Even our daughter has been lecturing him about not going out and if he has to to take the necessary steps to protect himself.
So we were sitting at home yesterday evening and the ottawa heart institute called around 5:00. I just Passes the phone automatically knowing it was for my husband thinking it was a reminder for an upcoming appointment. I hot Up and walked out of the room to check on my dogs and heard his side of the conversation. they had a heart for him. We packed a few things for him and off we went. Landed at administration at 6:45 pm. They wheeled him into the or at 6:30 this morning. I haven’t gotten any updates as of yet. But no news is food news. His surgeon did say it was going to be a long difficult surgery because of having his chest opened twice before. We were told that the waiting period would be 2 to 5 years because of his antibody level being at 100 due to multiple blood transfusions. The shock has finally worn of that it was only 7 months a 1 day!!!!!!! I can’t emphasis how important beings an organ donor is. If it weren’t for the kind empathic selfless person who their licence or donor card or filled out the form on line, My husband wouldn’t have a second chance at life. My deepest sympathies and condolences go out to the person’s family and I thank Them from the bottom of my heart for the precious gift of life. Their loved one’s legacy will live on in my husband and I will Be forever grateful.
unfortunately my soap making passion will be put on the sidelines for I dont Know how long. But I will Check in every now and then when I get The chance.
 
For those of you in NY I heard from the DOH that the Westchester containment is a show. No one knows what is going on. There are no directives. This is directly from someone who was down there.

Half our building is DOH offices and they have no directives on what their protocol is if someone in their office tests positive. I was also told in confidence that someone in our building was being tested.

I expect to have to self quarantine at some point.

I believe it is up to individuals to be as consciously safe as possible as there doesn't seem to be any consensus from govt on what is the best way to handle this.

Claudette, So happy for you. Sending good vibes and well wishes to your family.
 
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So we were sitting at home yesterday evening and the ottawa heart institute called around 5:00. I just Passes the phone automatically knowing it was for my husband thinking it was a reminder for an upcoming appointment. I hot Up and walked out of the room to check on my dogs and heard his side of the conversation. they had a heart for him. We packed a few things for him and off we went. Landed at administration at 6:45 pm. They wheeled him into the or at 6:30 this morning. I haven’t gotten any updates as of yet. But no news is food news. His surgeon did say it was going to be a long difficult surgery because of having his chest opened twice before. We were told that the waiting period would be 2 to 5 years because of his antibody level being at 100 due to multiple blood transfusions. The shock has finally worn of that it was only 7 months a 1 day!!!!!!! I can’t emphasis how important beings an organ donor is. If it weren’t for the kind empathic selfless person who their licence or donor card or filled out the form on line, My husband wouldn’t have a second chance at life. My deepest sympathies and condolences go out to the person’s family and I thank Them from the bottom of my heart for the precious gift of life. Their loved one’s legacy will live on in my husband and I will Be forever grateful.
unfortunately my soap making passion will be put on the sidelines for I dont Know how long. But I will Check in every now and then when I get The chance.

Claudette Carignan, I was where you are just 3 years ago this July. Its going to be a long day. My husband went in at 1pm and it was 1am before he came out of surgery. I hope you have family with you so you can take shifts to eat lunch or take a break without missing an update. I am sending prayers for you and your husband and the family of the donor. Hang in there and I am here if yu need to talk with someone who has been there. <3
 
You can do hand sanitizer with Eau de Toilette. It is 78% alcohol. HS has to be 60% alcohol to be safe. You can add a 5% glycerine for hydration and you have it. It is very liquid, but Works. I prefer it to the sticky thing most hand sanitizer are.
Even though, the best is our soap and water.
In Madrid there is no alcohol or wipes or HS for a week.
Fortunately, TP is being at shelves every day. People are crazy.
Rest at home all of you who can. Don't go out.
It is the only way to stop this.
I pray for the British if they don´t do this.
 
@Claudette Carignan OH, thank God!!! Praying for your hubby and your family. You all have a long road to walk. But at least your hubby will be around to walk it!

DFW went on state of emergency yesterday morning. All schools closed for at least two weeks. Lots of companies sending non-essential personnel home to be paid until April. Unfortunately, my job requires I be there, as does my husband's. He works on a military base, so they may close the base to non-essential personnel. His company will pay him if that happens for a couple of weeks. If they close my office, I am not going to be paid. Oh, well. We shall see what happens. I refuse to live in fear, though.

On a side note, if y'all haven't seen the videos of Italians singing from their balconies, grab some tissues and go watch it. Talk about making the best of a bad situation.
 
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@Claudette Carignan This is the most wonderful news! You may need to put off the soap making for awhile, but I do hope that you will be able to find time, with the support of family and friends, to occasionally do something for yourself, even if it is just getting outside for a walk in the sunshine. My ex went through a period of kidney failure and dialysis and then had a transplant from my BIL. Twelve years since later he is still doing very well. Donors and donor families are true heros. Giving someone life is truly the ultimate gift. I am also forever grateful to the doctors, ICU nurses and other members of the team that support families through every step.
 
So we were sitting at home yesterday evening and the ottawa heart institute called around 5:00. I just Passes the phone automatically knowing it was for my husband thinking it was a reminder for an upcoming appointment. I hot Up and walked out of the room to check on my dogs and heard his side of the conversation. they had a heart for him. We packed a few things for him and off we went. Landed at administration at 6:45 pm. They wheeled him into the or at 6:30 this morning. I haven’t gotten any updates as of yet. But no news is food news. His surgeon did say it was going to be a long difficult surgery because of having his chest opened twice before. We were told that the waiting period would be 2 to 5 years because of his antibody level being at 100 due to multiple blood transfusions. The shock has finally worn of that it was only 7 months a 1 day!!!!!!! I can’t emphasis how important beings an organ donor is. If it weren’t for the kind empathic selfless person who their licence or donor card or filled out the form on line, My husband wouldn’t have a second chance at life. My deepest sympathies and condolences go out to the person’s family and I thank Them from the bottom of my heart for the precious gift of life. Their loved one’s legacy will live on in my husband and I will Be forever grateful.
unfortunately my soap making passion will be put on the sidelines for I dont Know how long. But I will Check in every now and then when I get The chance.

Many prayers for your husband for a successful surgery and a full recovery. God Bless his donor. Sending you a virtual hug.

my sons college sent the kids home this week to study remotely for the next three weeks and just today our local high school closed for two weeks. This is getting really crazy.
 
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Businesses, Banks, schools, all outside programs at correctional facilities are cancelled and several churches are closed because of the flu. WHY? Viral pneumonia will most likely kill me if I get it. But it won't matter which virus laid the groundwork for it. This one is only a little different than the last 8 or 10.

Don't take me wrong, I am an "at risk" individual - BUT this virus has been weaponized. I have as much chance of getting a fatal case of Covid 19 as I do the flu. Proper hygene and taking care of where I go when I go.
If I NEED sanitizing wipes I will use lens cleaners which are still findable. Or they were before I typed this...
The MEDIA has caused a huge panic .
What the heck does toilet paper have to do with a virus?!?!
 
Australian shops are an eerie place at the moment. I haven't been able to buy toilet paper for two weeks, although I refuse to (and don't really have the time to) go to 6 or 10 different shops to find some, so I stop at a different place on the way home from work and if I get some I get some, if not and I run out, I'll cut up an old bedsheet. Purchases are limited in most shops now to one or two per person. The shelves are still empty. You ask the cashier and they say well you just have to be here at opening time. That doesn't help those who work in the mornings. Apparently there are 30-50 people all lined up in the morning waiting for doors to open and they are running and pushing and shoving each other to get to the toilet paper. Some shops over east (I am western Australia) are staggering their restocking shelves throughout the day so it allows people like me to get some in the afternoon. Our shops here won't do it because apparently the workers are being assaulted when they bring out the tp.

I have been avoiding the shops in general and not wanting to buy into the panic. I generally keep quite a bit of food at home and I was already starting this year to eat my way through the pantry, try to produce more at home and generally buy as little as possible. I have an endless supply of milk and meat wandering around the paddocks and I make cheese, yoghurt etc. But it looks more and more like we may actually start having shortages and potentially shops may actually start closing so I thought it might be prudent to tackle it yesterday just for a couple of minor things.

Our Prime minister on Friday announced that by Monday, any large public gatherings of 500 people should be cancelled. I believe this will only fuel the panic buying even more.

I went to an Aldi that was completely eerie. They've shoved extra shelves of stock into all the aisles willy nilly and there were long rows of simply empty shelves. Not only the toilet paper and paper towel, much of the food. Chips and biscuits were hit hard, those shelves were completely empty not a single packet left. Canned goods, pasta, flour rice etc maybe a quarter was left. I have heard reports of some shops with the frozen sections completely cleared.

I found one shop that has individual rolls of toilet paper and you are only allowed to buy two. At least it's something.

I could probably not go to the shops for a month or several now, though my food options may be a little bland, repetitive or somewhat creative haha but I am not fussy.

I do believe within a few weeks our country will also begin shutting schools and other things as well.

One event I was heading to has been cancelled. I suspect three others will be, just haven't heard yet. That is about $4.5k and almost half my yearly sales that I was expecting, gone. Thank goodness I have a 'real job'and don't rely on soap to pay the rent and bills. my real job is considered front line so even if we test positive, as long as we aren't deathly ill we have been told we are expected to come to work as we will be needed.

Businesses, Banks, schools, all outside programs at correctional facilities are cancelled and several churches are closed because of the flu. WHY? Viral pneumonia will most likely kill me if I get it. But it won't matter which virus laid the groundwork for it. This one is only a little different than the last 8 or 10.

Don't take me wrong, I am an "at risk" individual - BUT this virus has been weaponized. I have as much chance of getting a fatal case of Covid 19 as I do the flu. Proper hygene and taking care of where I go when I go.
If I NEED sanitizing wipes I will use lens cleaners which are still findable. Or they were before I typed this...
The MEDIA has caused a huge panic .
What the heck does toilet paper have to do with a virus?!?!

With all due respect, firstly you are more likely to survive the normal flu than COVID. Secondly the rapid transmission and number of cases requiring hospitalization because our population has no immunity to it, the overburdened hospital system, that will also markedly increase your chance of dying - because you won't be able to receive proper care.

The social distancing, isolation etc isn't about containment as such - we missed the boat there, this disease is in our communities - it's about slowing the rate at which those severe cases happen to give the health system a chance to cope. If you expect a community will have say 1000 people will contract it in the high risk group and need hospitalization but your hospital only has 300 beds and only a quarter of those are ICU. What these measures are trying to do is to spread those 1000 cases over weeks or months, so that 1000 people don't all turn up in the same day and we can't care for them.
 
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One event I was heading to has been cancelled. I suspect three others will be, just haven't heard yet. That is about $4.5k and almost half my yearly sales that I was expecting, gone.

The Royal Easter Show here has been cancelled just weeks away. They have 800,000 people through the gate. It also affects the farmers.
 
The Royal Easter Show here has been cancelled just weeks away. They have 800,000 people through the gate. It also affects the farmers.

Yep I was saying the other day it would be inevitable and sure enough ...
 
Businesses, Banks, schools, all outside programs at correctional facilities are cancelled and several churches are closed because of the flu. WHY?
The MEDIA has caused a huge panic .
What the heck does toilet paper have to do with a virus?!?!
I've been keeping a very close eye on COVID-19 since the beginning of the year when a friend of mine who was living and working in China was evacuated. This "flu" has closed the borders of several countries, including the one I am currently living in. I read one report that showed the mortality rate in Italy, if you had a severe enough case to be admitted into the hospital was as high as 45%. If that's not enough to get your attention, I don't know what will be.

Stay away from crowds. Wash your hands often. This is serious. Like @Primrose already pointed out, these measures are so our hospitals don't get overcrowded.
 
I am as concerned for my health and my parents as much as anyone but the quotes of 45% mortality is wildly off the mark and just feed into the anxiety.

The death rate is around 1-2% but given it's based on the number of known cases it's likely to get less plus you cannot equate population demographics or healthcare across China, Italy, the UK or the US. Very different populations, health care and welfare systems.

Yes this is potentially the biggest global challenge in generations and we can all do our bit to protect ourselves, our families and our neighbours.
 
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