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@amd --

Soup ... or soap? ;)

Maybe both, hey?

I have worked with many male engineer types over the years. It's fascinating to watch how some of them approach cooking and other things that require creativity and artistic flair as much as science. Many of them want to reduce the world to hard numbers and black and white methodology. It can be amusing ... or frustrating ... depending on the situation.

LOL, well this is a young single guy (23 or 24), and he was starting to get concerned that all the canned soup was gone. I mentioned to him that I have always had a few extra cans of broth and a bag of beans on hand to make soup. The look on his face when he asked me if I actually know how to make soup was kind of priceless. I don't think he realized that you can MAKE soup. I haven't even brought up SOAP yet. I'm too worried his head will explode... lol.
 
LOL, well this is a young single guy (23 or 24), and he was starting to get concerned that all the canned soup was gone. I mentioned to him that I have always had a few extra cans of broth and a bag of beans on hand to make soup. The look on his face when he asked me if I actually know how to make soup was kind of priceless. I don't think he realized that you can MAKE soup. I haven't even brought up SOAP yet. I'm too worried his head will explode... lol.
That gave me a chuckle though I can see where the amazement may come from. Pennsylvania has taught me at least that.
 
LOL, well this is a young single guy (23 or 24), and he was starting to get concerned that all the canned soup was gone. I mentioned to him that I have always had a few extra cans of broth and a bag of beans on hand to make soup. The look on his face when he asked me if I actually know how to make soup was kind of priceless. I don't think he realized that you can MAKE soup. I haven't even brought up SOAP yet. I'm too worried his head will explode... lol.
You are too funny - thanks for the laugh!
 
temps of 60Celsius kills it, so does 70% alcohol. It can not survive more than 3 hours. It is contagious thats true. You should look at info on serious pages .

“Surface disinfection with 0.1% sodium hypochlorite or 62–71% ethanol significantly reduces coronavirus infectivity on surfaces within 1 min[ute] exposure time.” all of us have it at home, Use it to make sure you are safe
 
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temps of 60Celsius kills it, so does 70% alcohol. It can not survive more than 3 hours. It is contagious thats true. You should look at info on serious pages .
“Surface disinfection with 0.1% sodium hypochlorite or 62–71% ethanol significantly reduces coronavirus infectivity on surfaces within 1 min[ute] exposure time.” all of us have it at home, Use it to make sure you are safe
Can you post the linnk to this info .... not trying to be snotty, just want others informed
 
‘Staff’ / Mers, Sara has been around long time & you’ve been getting nose swabbed for years admitted to hospitals. Come on. Wash those hands & any object hands touch w/ soap & water. (Not phones or computer stuff). We’re in a good position to help the public. Been giving bars to library workers, POffice, school teachers who are mandated to use their provided watered down cleaners. All the other objects hard to clean guess I’ll buy Everclear & spray it on my steering wheel, etc.
 
Can you post the linnk to this info .... not trying to be snotty, just want others informed

I think we've all beaten to death the fact that hand sanitizer needs to be at least 60% alcohol by volume. See the "Hand Sanitizer" thread by Mobjack Bay if you need direct sources.

"...Outside the body, "to actively kill the virus you need temperatures of around 60 degrees [Celsius]", says Professor Bloomfield - far hotter than any bath. Washing bed linen or towels at 60C is a good idea, as this can kill any viruses in the fabric. But it's not a good option for washing your skin...."

Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-51735367

"...human coronaviruses such as Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) coronavirus, Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS) coronavirus or endemic humancoronaviruses (HCoV) can persist on inanimate surfaces like metal, glass or plastic for up to 9 days, but can be efficiently inactivated by surface disinfection procedures with 62-71% ethanol, 0.5% hydrogen peroxide or 0.1% sodium hypochlorite within 1 minute...."

Source: https://www.journalofhospitalinfection.com/article/S0195-6701(20)30046-3/pdf
 
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NY went to shelter in place and I have to go to work Monday. I am an accountant how am I essential? I can work from home. But no I have to go into a building with other people and put my 69 yo hubby who has COPD in jeopardy.
 
NY went to shelter in place and I have to go to work Monday. I am an accountant how am I essential? I can work from home. But no I have to go into a building with other people and put my 69 yo hubby who has COPD in jeopardy.

That’s really disturbing that they are forcing you to go in. Tell your boss you need to self quarantine because you were exposed to someone who tested positive and that you will work from home. People who can work from home should have a choice in this unprecedented situation without fear of losing their jobs. Stay well!
 
That’s really disturbing that they are forcing you to go in. Tell your boss you need to self quarantine because you were exposed to someone who tested positive and that you will work from home. People who can work from home should have a choice in this unprecedented situation without fear of losing their jobs. Stay well!
The fact that this endangers her husband should have been reason enough. That's NY for you.
 
New research, published by the New England Journal of Medicine a few days ago, reported experimental findings re. the viability on four types of surfaces of the corona virus that is causing the pandemic (SARS-CoV-2).

Shorter, friendlier description of research here: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/03/200317150116.htm
New research finds that the virus that causes coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) is stable for several hours to days in aerosols and on surfaces. Scientists found that severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) was detectable in aerosols for up to three hours*, up to four hours on copper, up to 24 hours on cardboard and up to two to three days on plastic and stainless steel.”

*This part of the sentence is misleading. According to the original article, linked below, the virus remained viable for the full duration of the experiment with aerosols, which was 3 hours.

The publication is here: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2004973

Under experimental conditions, the virus lasted longer on plastic and stainless steel than it did on copper and cardboard.

SARS-CoV-2 was more stable on plastic and stainless steel than on copper and cardboard, and viable virus was detected up to 72 hours after application to these surfaces.
On copper, no viable SARS-CoV-2 was measured after 4 hours.
On cardboard, no viable SARS-CoV-2 was measured after 24 hours.

They also conducted experiments with the related virus SARS-CoV-1, the one that caused “SARS” for comparison:
“We found that the stability of SARS-CoV-2 was similar to that of SARS-CoV-1 under the experimental circumstances tested. This indicates that differences in the epidemiologic characteristics of these viruses probably arise from other factors, including high viral loads in the upper respiratory tract and the potential for persons infected with SARS-CoV-2 to shed and transmit the virus while asymptomatic.”

Thus, the great need for social distancing.
 
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@amd --

Soup ... or soap? ;)

Maybe both, hey?

I have worked with many male engineer types over the years. It's fascinating to watch how some of them approach cooking and other things that require creativity and artistic flair as much as science. Many of them want to reduce the world to hard numbers and black and white methodology. It can be amusing ... or frustrating ... depending on the situation.
Oh, I loved working with the engineers at my old job. I could count on them to read the manual and understand the math. I never got frustrated with their black and white thinking, it kind of amused me.

On the coronavirus front, my granddaughter 's school is starting remote learning on Monday. Kudos to them for getting this together so quickly. Lots of adjustments for everyone. I took a large box of soaps over to the school today. The teachers and staff have been working night and day in the last two weeks, when they were supposed to be having spring break. They are determined to try to keep these students on track to complete the school year. And frankly, a schedule is a good idea to keep focus away from too much obsessive worrying.
My Dad's medical procedure was postponed. The hospital is only taking emergencies at this time to limit social interaction. And my guess is that they also want to free up as many beds as possible.
Be calm and wash your hands (with soap).

On a NPR report on the Coronavirus, they spoke of sunlight killing viruses, including coronaviruses. Because of that, I've been leaving packages out in the open for 3-4 hours. However, I haven't been able to find any other source that supports that.

Anyone else know if this is true?
 
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Keep treating your COPD as usual and take care of yourself.
Your meds can cause the sore throat - mine do at times. Nothing too unusual there.

On another topic - the distillery 50 miles away has switched to making sanitizers that smell just like the vodka they usually make. They are giving out free samples. If you order from them they do curbside delivery, no clients in the store. Washington State is under Marshall law.
Steve - my brother in law lives in Seattle and he said there is no marshall law??
 
@Nona'sFarm According to a couple of biodefense researchers at Aberdeen Proving Ground in Maryland, “Sunlight or, more specifically, solar UV radiation (UV) acts as the principal natural virucide in the environment.” With only a scan of the paper I did not find easily digestible results or conclusions, but here’s the link if you’re interested:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1280232/#__ffn_sectitle

UV-C is the very effective type of UV radiation used for sterilization in research labs, but I don’t think much of it passes through the atmosphere compared with UV-A and UV-B.
 
This is Marshall Law.
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