Cold Temperature Soap Making Method

[tinglingclean]

I am curious to know if someone out there has tried this method. I have done it twice, but am concerned about the spoilage that might occur. I did find some orange spots on some of the bars, so that has me thinking twice about using that method. It is quick, and easy. I actually just found out about this method, a there doesn't seem to be a lot of information on internet about it.
Looking forward to hearing about your experiences.

 

[robtr31]

what ingredients used maybe the problem not the method.

 

[dagmar88]

Been soaping at room temp for years and never had any DOS.
I've been keeping one or more bars from every batch for testing purposes for over three years.
Can you post your recipe?

 

[tkine]

I RT soap & have not had any DOS.
I wouldn't go back to using thermometers.

 

[Miz Jenny]

Let me add my sentiments to dagmar and tkline: been room temp soaping for several months and would not go back to having to use thermometers. Last night I weighed and melted oils for 3 batches of soap, also made the lye water, so I could begin early this morning. One batch made already.

 

[Moody Glenn]

I am "old school" - I like to measure the temp of my melted oils. I try to have them near 115-120 degrees F and my lye solution cold (or at room temp.) This way I know I will not have a false trace. I also gel so that may help in not having DOS. If you have a high superfatting level and/or have organic additives this can possibly lead to DOS.

 

[dagmar88]

I've never seen any evidence to support superfat within the normal range (up to 10%) contributes to DOS. Same goes for not gelling.
Aside from the occasional HP batch or accidental (partial) gel, I haven't made any gelled soap for about 5 years.

I think it all comes down to your formulation and maybe humidity.
Using fresh oils, oils with a long shelf life and distilled or deionized water will all help.

 

[tinglingclean]

Thanks for so many remarks.
Here is the recipe. castor oil 2.56 oz Olive oil 29.4 oz I did replace half the olive oil with chamomile infusion
water distilled 11.05oz Lye 4.96 oz
Did add 1 ml of silk liquid. Lavender 10 drops

Thanks Dagmar

I would appreciate having my mistakes pointed out, as I do like this method

 

[tinglingclean]

Hi Dagmar

I forgot to mention, I really like how that recipe turned out, use wise.

 

[dagmar88]

I did replace half the olive oil with chamomile infusion

What oil was used for the infusion?

 

[tinglingclean]

Really can't remember the oil I used for infusing. but I would say it likely was olive oil,. or sweet almond. I did the infusing several months ago, and obviously, didn't make the type of oil I uses, sorry.. will learn from this as well. keep records
Would that have been the problem, when the recipe called for olive oil.?

I like the method, just want to get it right. Thanks.

I don't sell my soap, so my concern was why this happened.

 

[newbie]

It could be a problem if that oil has a shorter self life or was older to begin with. Plus, if you don't remember what oil it was, your lye calculation is likely to be wrong because you don't know the true SAP value of your recipe. It could still be appropriately superfatted but perhaps not. For safety's sake, you should always know exactly what you are working with so you lye calc is correct, even if the soap is just for you. And some oils are more prone to DOS- that could have been your infusing oil.

 

[tinglingclean]

I really can't remember the oil I used, but would say it likely was olive oil, so it should have been okay, as the recipe called for all olive oil
Need to take notes better, just didn't think, and I don't sell my soap, so it is not crucial

Thanks Helena

 

[CaliChan]

Olive oil typically isn't prone to DOS. Unless it was rancid.
Theres a list somewhere in this forum with oils that are prone to DOS. If I can find it I'll post a link for you. Definitely keep records of all your recipes and take lots of notes helps with solving all problems future and present.

 

[dagmar88]

Olive oil typically isn't prone to DOS. Unless it was rancid.

With opening the container, exposing to sunlight/heat, adding herbs (perhaps still containing the slightest bit of moisture), letting it sit for months, not adding an anti oxidant; the risk of rancidity is likely to increase.