Castile vs Bastille. . . That is the Question

[melstan775]

Hello from Greece

According to Greek law you can call your soap a) Pure Castile type only if contains 100% Extra virgin olive oil, no color, no scent. It’s just lye and and extra virgin olive oil.
b) You can call your soap Castile type only if contains 100% olive oil (no pomace), no color, no scent. It’s just lye and and olive oil
c) You can call your soap “olive oil soap” only if it contains more than 60% olive oil.
So when you use pomace in your soap, even if it’s 100% pomace, you can’t call it castile type. It’s just an olive soap. All these according to Greek law of course…..

Has anybody try to add salt and sugar to a castile type soap? Do we have better lather and harder soap this way????

Thats interesting laws. Is it because Greece is known for it's olive products? Or some other reason?

 

[Venus]

Ummmm…I really don’t know why here in Greece we have so many strict rules about naming-labelling a soap. The truth is that we produce a lot of olive oil and it’s arguably the best olive oil in the world. Almost every Greek family has its very own olive oil, and “secret “ HP or CP OO soap recipe. Don’t forget that the castile soap is characterized as a Protected Designation of Origin product.

 

[MzMolly65]

Castile vs bastille, that is the question.

One question but you'll get a million different answers because it all depends on the person.

Other people say Castile is slimy or gooey but I never think that. I made 100% OO Castile, no scent, no additives and I love the bars I tested. I don't find them slimy. To me they are slick or slippery and they glide nicely on my super dry, alligator skin. I feel really clean but never dried out after using them. I don't need moisturizer any more and my skin tone has evened out and that is from bars that are only a few months old.

I'll definitely be making more of this and since I'm super skin sensitive bubbles and scents are the least of my worries. I'll take creamy lather and happy skin over fluffy bubbles and fancy scents any day! ... and if they only get better with age I'm ok with waiting.

 

[MzMolly65]

I wonder why pomace is excluded? I use pomace olive oil, and the tin says it's mixed with extra virgin. I know pomace is extruded a bit differently though so maybe that's it.

It might be because virgin and extra virgin are cold pressed while pomace is chemically expressed .. not sure, just guessing out loud.

 

[AustinStraight]

You might enjoy 100% olive oil, -30% superfat bars. They take months to cure but from what I've heard, they're way better than "normal" castile soap with a 5% superfat.

 

[elmtree]

You might enjoy 100% olive oil, -30% superfat bars. They take months to cure but from what I've heard, they're way better than "normal" castile soap with a 5% superfat.

Is this a negative 30%? Really? Interesting!

 

[DeeAnna]

Yes, Austin's right. The recipe has an unusual amount of water as well. It's definitely not a beginner recipe for a couple of reasons. There's a pretty good chance of separation in the mold if you don't follow the rules for blending the batter. Also the recipe stays lye heavy for some time, so you can't be jumping the gun and using it too soon, like most of us have done as newbies with our first soaps. But a bunch of us are having fun exploring how and why this recipe works.

 

[Shaefercd]

Add Goats Milk

I make a Goats Milk, Castille Soap and sell as Baby Bar and Also as a Castille Soap and I think it is great.

Like others have said. Bastille and Castillle have their own qualities and ther is nothing wronb with having both!

I also say it is perception. My soap is not slimy it is Silky or lotiony~:-D