Cacao Butter
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Yes but why waste good food quality cacao on soap?
dixiedragon
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Looks like it's cocoa butter. It does saponify. The only time I, personally, like to use butters in soap is when I make a palm-free vegan soap with 50% shea.
Cacao is sort of cocoa's un-roasted daddy as best I understand it. It does have a faint chocolaty aroma, so I'm not sure how that will translate into soap. Might not survive the lye or might smell great with orange. Oh great. Now I'm hungry.
It is the same as Cocoa Butter. This is the inci for Cocoa Butter, Theobroma cacao. I agree that I would not waste food grade Cocoa Butter in soap but that is entirely up to you.
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I might be having a stupid moment, but I thought all cocoa butter was food grade? (Not that I eat my cocoa butter anyways, but thinking for lip balm use it would have to be food grade.) I use it at 5% in all of my soaps, and some people have told me in unscented soaps they can smell a slight chocolate aroma. I can faintly pick it out in my scented soaps, but I've been told by other soapers that I have a decent nose for picking out oil scents. I get cocoa butter from Soapers Choice and it's a fairly strong chocolate scent.
How does the cost compare to other Cocoa Butter available to you? That would be my concern.
dixiedragon
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I think - i might be wrong - that being food grade is not just being "edible". It has to do with how it was stored, inspected, etc. You can get many oils (example avocado) as cosmetic grade, which is cheaper than food grade. it's still avocado, it's still edible, but it isn't subject to the same standards b/c technically you aren't supposed to eat it.
It’s almost $1/oz. Janice bought it to make keto fat bombs but decided against making them. So I that makes it free since it’s sitting in our pantry.
Alfa_Lazcares
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Ha! Then i would use it if you dont plan to eat it. I only made two batches with cocoa butter since its very expensive, but i love the chocolate smell they have. I’m down to my last two bars so I am really considering getting some more.
It's the same as cocoa butter and if Janice isn't going to use it for Keto bombs I say go for it! I've used it before and it makes good soap.
Dawni
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Before I found a lard supplier I used to use up to 15-20% of it in my soaps, together with shea.
The soaps do not have a chocolatey scent but there is some scent that I can't describe, and do not particularly like when the butters are used at a higher percentage, that EOs can't mask.
When I only use around 12% or less I noticed that I can't find that smell anymore.
I use unrefined, cosmetic grade butters btw. And I definitely would not want to eat them lol
The soaps do not have a chocolatey scent but there is some scent that I can't describe, and do not particularly like when the butters are used at a higher percentage, that EOs can't mask.
When I only use around 12% or less I noticed that I can't find that smell anymore.
I use unrefined, cosmetic grade butters btw. And I definitely would not want to eat them lol
My standard, go-to recipe, is coconut, palm, olive, lard, castor and safflower. I was considering it 5% super fat.
Dawni
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I'd say go for it.
If you have a standard recipe using a different superfat then you'll also have something to compare this to, to see how you like it, and if you can tell if 5% makes a difference hehehe
So you're an HP man @DWinMadison?
I thought you were CP? Anyhoo - I reckon it's a shame to use it alongside your regular ingredients. Why not replace the lard with it and make a veg soap? I've used it at 15% with great success (before I started with the soy wax which I now use instead because it's about a 1/4 of the price).
I thought you were CP? Anyhoo - I reckon it's a shame to use it alongside your regular ingredients. Why not replace the lard with it and make a veg soap? I've used it at 15% with great success (before I started with the soy wax which I now use instead because it's about a 1/4 of the price).
