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I only cook or soap with certified organic oils (for eating only EVOO and CO), and do not use soy for a plethora of reasons - the vast majority of non-organic soy being GMO is a big one. Sometimes it is inevitable, but where I can control it as much as possible I choose not to consume or use it. Not looking to fight with anyone that does not share my views, but that's what I ascribe to. Eating only EVOO or CO for oils can be restrictive but it's not so bad. I might even try sunflower at some point but CO is best for cooking, EVOO is usually only eaten in things like dressing for us... We may be weird, I know, but oh well. :)

Not sure where you are or if you order online but Essential Wholesale sells allot of certified organic products including soy oil if the GMO is the big thing. When I am not feeling especially apathetic or broke that's where I go. They also have organic castor.
 
Not sure where you are or if you order online but Essential Wholesale sells allot of certified organic products including soy oil if the GMO is the big thing. When I am not feeling especially apathetic or broke that's where I go. They also have organic castor.

Thanks, I'll check them out! I just plain am not interested in soy though, 85% is GMO and even certified organic is deeply at risk for cross-contamination. Most certified organic corn (another huge GMO crop), for example, when tested is found to have cross-contaminated GMO corn in it. It's very hard to avoid when so much of these crops are GMO. Even so, with soy there are a lot of health concerns such as hormone disruption since soy is very estrogenic, not sure how that could translate to soap, but I still don't want it on my skin for that reason also. :wtf:
 
I won't use soybean oil either, concerns about GMO, rancidity, cross contamination, alarming amounts of land devoured for its production (same reason I won't use canola). I limit my consumption too, mostly due to concerns about endocrine disruption. I think you'd be fine subbing out high-oleic sunflower, easy to find and inexpensive. I subbed out the soy with broccoli seed and jojoba oils, both of which my hair loves.
 
I won't use soybean oil either, concerns about GMO, rancidity, cross contamination, alarming amounts of land devoured for its production (same reason I won't use canola). I limit my consumption too, mostly due to concerns about endocrine disruption. I think you'd be fine subbing out high-oleic sunflower, easy to find and inexpensive. I subbed out the soy with broccoli seed and jojoba oils, both of which my hair loves.

Sweet, always a treat to meet another person with the same values!

Where in the world did you find broccoli seed oil? That sounds very interesting!
 
Thinkativeone here is another one that won't use soy oil....I do not think it would be harmful in soap, but soy and canola are prone to rancidity and I do not want to support any GMO crops. (yes we grow our own veggies too...)

I have been leaving the soy out of Genny's bars since day one. I use more avocado instead, so avocado oil is my first ingredient. This makes them more expensive but they are wonderful dry hair (and dry skin) soaps.

I just wanted to reassure you that the soy is not necessary in a shampoo bar!
 
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