Best Chelator/anti DOS ingredients

[cmzaha]

I do not use them for Dos but hard water/soap scum issues. My choice is a combination of EDTA and Sodium Gluconate at the rate of 0.5% each for a total of 1%. Warding off dos is a plus since I use some lard and have had problems with high lard percentages in soap.

 

[earlene]

I do not use them for Dos but hard water/soap scum issues. My choice is a combination of EDTA and Sodium Carbonate at the rate of 0.5% each for a total of 1%. Warding off dos is a plus since I use some lard and have had problems with high lard percentages in soap.

Carolyn, I thought you used GLA - EDTA. Did I misunderstand?

 

[cmzaha]

Carolyn, I thought you used GLA - EDTA. Did I misunderstand?

I just corrected my error. I actually use Sodium Gluconate. Thank you for catching my error, my old brain must not be working today.

 

[earlene]

I just corrected my error. I actually use Sodium Gluconate. Thank you for catching my error, my old brain must not be working today.

My old brain was giving me trouble the last few days, too. I keep mixing up my days and can't find stuff right in front of me. My old body is doing me more trouble, though.

 

[Zany_in_CO]

my old brain must not be working today.

I hear ya! I have days like that... more often than I like.

I keep mixing up my days and can't find stuff right in front of me.

Me too! I'm blaming it on the heat! Can't hardly function in this heat!

 

[Sunibee]

How much sodium citrate do you use?

Thank you...my question too is the same

 

[Sunibee]

I‘ve been using 1% sodium citrate per gram of oil after having problems with crystals forming on the top of my soap when I was using citric acid. I started low with the SC because I was crystal shy, but it’s working fine and it’s probably time to increase to at least 1.5%.

Is it 1% per gm or TOW ?

 

[Mobjack Bay]

I do my calculation for SC based on wt of oils/fats. I work in grams and add, for example, 10 g of SC for 1000 g of oils/fats in the recipe (1% of total fat weight).

 

[earlene]

Per DeeAnna's site:

"Typical dosage for sodium citrate is 13 g to 39 g sodium citrate powder for every 1,000 g fats (1.3% to 3.9% of total fat weight). Use more for hard water, less for soft."

See this reference: Citrate | Soapy Stuff

 

[Sunibee]

I do my calculation for SC based on wt of oils/fats. I work in grams and add, for example, 10 g of SC for 1000 g of oils/fats in the recipe (1% of total fat weight).

Thank you Mobjack Bay

 

[Sunibee]

Per DeeAnna's site:

"Typical dosage for sodium citrate is 13 g to 39 g sodium citrate powder for every 1,000 g fats (1.3% to 3.9% of total fat weight). Use more for hard water, less for soft."

See this reference: Citrate | Soapy Stuff

Thank you Earlene

 

[Sunibee]

I use sodium citrate.

Cool..so do you also use 1.3 to 3.9% depending on hard water

 

[dibbles]

Cool..so do you also use 1.3 to 3.9% depending on hard water

I have soft water, so it’s mainly for the others I give it to. I use 1.5-2% of oil weight, dissolved in a bit of the (warmed) batch water and then stick blended into my oils before adding the lye solution.

 

[Sunibee]

I have soft water, so it’s mainly for the others I give it to. I use 1.5-2% of oil weight, dissolved in a bit of the (warmed) batch water and then stick blended into my oils before adding the lye solution.

Thank you

 

[Paulie]

I am I using Sodium Gluconate as we have hard water and need something.

 

[Sunibee]

I am I using Sodium Gluconate as we have hard water and need something.

Thank you .So do I add it to water if so in what ratio . Or do u add the powder to oils ?

 

[DeeAnna]

I'd recommend 0.5% of the SG powder based on total batch weight. Dissolve it in water before use. I suggest using sodium gluconate solution within a day of mixing in water for best effectiveness. More: Sodium Gluconate | Soapy Stuff

 

[Paulie]

Thank you .So do I add it to water if so in what ratio . Or do u add the powder to oils ?

Hi Sunibee, I add 1% of my total batch. We have very hard water. Thanks for asking.

 

[Sunibee]

Hi Sunibee, I add 1% of my total batch. We have very hard water. Thanks for asking.

Hello Paulie , my doubt is - Do u add this powder to water and dilute it ..if so what is the ratio .

Or do you add the concentrated powder directly to the oils ?

 

[AliOop]

Hello Paulie , my doubt is - Do u add this powder to water and dilute it ..if so what is the ratio .

Or do you add the concentrated powder directly to the oils ?

As noted by @DeeAnna in post #37, above, you must always dissolve the powder in the water before adding the lye to the water. Warming the water a bit first will help. She recommends using .5% of the total batch weight. That means if your total batch weight is 1000g, you would use 5 grams of the sodium gluconate.