That is so cool! How did you know these things? Well I guess you‘re a professor, after all!
Now I need to get me some “ Frickel Nockem All” - my mom is visiting and I need to clean my shower.
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Now I need to get me some “ Frickel Nockem All” - my mom is visiting and I need to clean my shower.
I'll take some "Arbor Series Heliotrope." I have no idea what it is but I wanna find out. Also lol at the last entry on that page.That is so cool! How did you know these things? Well I guess you‘re a professor, after all!
Now I need to get me some “ Frickel Nockem All” - my mom is visiting and I need to clean my shower.
“Savon mucha sandalwood” sounds nice…
Peachy Clean Soap
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I'm not sure if lard slows down trace' Ive just discovered "Rancid Lard" will accelerate trace quickly, morph your micas & EO / FO.I heard today that lard slows down trace. Have you guys found this to be true? I am planning quite a few colors for my first lard soap.
@Professor Bernardo wonderful info on the Armor Meat Co, 1907 was a busy year for them. Interesting.
Lol noticed that too. bawhahaI'll take some "Arbor Series Heliotrope." I have no idea what it is but I wanna find out. Also lol at the last entry on that page.
MellonFriend
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So are you saying that if the lard is rancid it will do strange things?
My lard I used was straight out of a new thing of lard I bought only a few days before I made the soap but my colors did morph... definitely could have been the micas though...
Peachy Clean Soap
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If your lard is newly bought chances are it's not rancid. check the expiration date on the container. Micas can morph for many reasons & usually they do a little, also depending if your soap gelled or not.
Rancid Lard will play havoc on your soap as I described above. You know something is off as your SB cause it will accelerate turn to a thick gladness look and texture, It will change color's from the normal whiteish color to a yellowish color' before adding any micas or fo/ eo. yucky.
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Bubble Agent
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Sorry to hear your experience with rancid lard @Peachy Clean Soap, must be frustrating. Hope it was a one time thing!
This isn`t related to Armour lard specifically, but lard in general. If this is too off topic, lemme know and I`ll delete in a heartbeat
I have used lard in my soaps for many years. My family and friends and I love it so much, that I went for a high lard recipe in my CPRS (sorry if I keep repeating myself
)
I buy it in bulk, and have a dedicated freezer for my lard and coconut oil (I buy coconut in a big tub, cheaper that way, free ship etc)
I freeze everything straight after purchase. My lard comes in 500 gram packages, and the coconut I divide into what I use in each batch of soap so I don`t have to weigh it again.
If you purchase some quantities you can just freeze it if you can`t use it all up and you worry that it will spoil (it probably won`t, but at least you can rest assured it will be safe in the freezer).
Take it out the day before you need it and put it in the fridge (or some hours in room temps) then it will be easy to cut/scoop or whatever you need to do with it. (The best thing is to freeze in portions and not freeze/defrost the same thing over again.)
I started an experiment several years ago, ( noooo, really Bubble??? That`s not like you...
)
And decided to save a piece of lard in my freezer. It is now 3 1/2 years old. It is still as fresh as the day I got it.
I keep it in my freezer to see how long it takes for it to start smell piggy. It contains BHT and other antioxidants. I have never had dos in my lard soap so far, so the BHT etc really helps.
Along with a lower lye discount. And luck. And good genes (cough...
)
This isn`t related to Armour lard specifically, but lard in general. If this is too off topic, lemme know and I`ll delete in a heartbeat
I have used lard in my soaps for many years. My family and friends and I love it so much, that I went for a high lard recipe in my CPRS (sorry if I keep repeating myself
)I buy it in bulk, and have a dedicated freezer for my lard and coconut oil (I buy coconut in a big tub, cheaper that way, free ship etc)
I freeze everything straight after purchase. My lard comes in 500 gram packages, and the coconut I divide into what I use in each batch of soap so I don`t have to weigh it again.
If you purchase some quantities you can just freeze it if you can`t use it all up and you worry that it will spoil (it probably won`t, but at least you can rest assured it will be safe in the freezer).
Take it out the day before you need it and put it in the fridge (or some hours in room temps) then it will be easy to cut/scoop or whatever you need to do with it. (The best thing is to freeze in portions and not freeze/defrost the same thing over again.)
I started an experiment several years ago, ( noooo, really Bubble??? That`s not like you...
)And decided to save a piece of lard in my freezer. It is now 3 1/2 years old. It is still as fresh as the day I got it.
I keep it in my freezer to see how long it takes for it to start smell piggy. It contains BHT and other antioxidants. I have never had dos in my lard soap so far, so the BHT etc really helps.
Along with a lower lye discount. And luck. And good genes (cough...
)Bubble Agent
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For what its worth, I use between 50 and 60% lard in my soaps, and my mica doesn`t morph. Well, the green does, but most greens does at first before they change back.
Ninnynanny
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Mellonfriend!! You are very active on the goat spot : )
I exclusively make lard soap, and I normally buy the leaf lard from our local slaughterhouse at 35 cents per pound, then grind and render at home for an 80% return. I came across this thread because I ran out of lard, and so did the slaughterhouse! So in a pinch I bought a couple of Armour tubs from Walmart. It will do, but it is nothing like the real thing! I urge you to try to get some pork leaf lard, cook it low and slow, and see the difference! I will definitely only be using store bought in emergencies :/
I exclusively make lard soap, and I normally buy the leaf lard from our local slaughterhouse at 35 cents per pound, then grind and render at home for an 80% return. I came across this thread because I ran out of lard, and so did the slaughterhouse! So in a pinch I bought a couple of Armour tubs from Walmart. It will do, but it is nothing like the real thing! I urge you to try to get some pork leaf lard, cook it low and slow, and see the difference! I will definitely only be using store bought in emergencies :/
MellonFriend
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Hi there! Yeah, I am a lot more active over on TGS than here. I still visit the site frequently though even if I don't post. I'm really excited to try real lard someday!
Totally agree with tallow/lard combo. Really nice!!!I LOVE lard in soap. If you like your results, try tallow with the lard. Makes such nice bars with luxurious lather.
My go to no vegan soaps that I sold for years are 40% tallow 20% lard. I find the combo makes fantastic soap.
akseattle
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Your question wasn't really about tallow v. lard, but I use both.
I use about 39% tallow in my recipe unless I have a reason to do something different.
I have often replaced about 40% of the tallow with Lard. I have only once replaced 100% of the tallow for lard, and the lard was 31% of my oils.
With lard (and tallow) I've been able to get a nice white without using very much mica. I prefer the tallow because, based on soapcalc, it produces a slightly harder bar than lard, tallow has better longevity than lard, too.
But, lard is creamier.
I also use Armour or what ever lard brand is at the grocery store. I appreciate that the manufacturers put in preservatives to combat rancidity!!
I hope you enjoy your lard soap!!
I use about 39% tallow in my recipe unless I have a reason to do something different.
I have often replaced about 40% of the tallow with Lard. I have only once replaced 100% of the tallow for lard, and the lard was 31% of my oils.
With lard (and tallow) I've been able to get a nice white without using very much mica. I prefer the tallow because, based on soapcalc, it produces a slightly harder bar than lard, tallow has better longevity than lard, too.
But, lard is creamier.
I also use Armour or what ever lard brand is at the grocery store. I appreciate that the manufacturers put in preservatives to combat rancidity!!
I hope you enjoy your lard soap!!
MellonFriend
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This is actually a pretty old thread, so I don't mind going off topic. I have never used beef tallow, but I use goat tallow, and I would agree that mixing it with lard makes a much nicer bar. The goat tallow alone gets a little mushy, but the lard really helps with that. Goat tallow also accelerates trace like crazy, so for someone who likes intricate designs, lard is better in that area. I feel like lard is probably my favorite fat for soap making.
I have never used beef tallow, but I use goat tallow, and I would agree that mixing it with lard makes a much nicer bar. The goat tallow alone gets a little mushy, but the lard really helps with that. Goat tallow also accelerates trace like crazy, so for someone who likes intricate designs, lard is better in that area. I feel like lard is probably my favorite fat for soap making.
