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Lindy

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Thanks. Seems like it will never end. All for progress...I guess. Thanks for the enlightenment... :cry:
 
So no more cyclomethicone? I will be shocked if it's ever banned or regulated in the US.
 
Lindy said:
CTV News just announced that they have idenitified another ingredient that is toxic and is found in Shampoo, Soap, Anti-Persperint and other personal care products. Here is the link http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNe...emical_regulations_090203/20090203?hub=Health

I've printed off a copy to be displayed in my "Book" that I plan to have at my kiosks.

One more reason to use hand-made products :D :p :D
So do you want to come and live on the moon with me. I am sure Virgin will have flights leaving soon.
We can start all over. :wink:
Seriously , pollution one way or another is a huge concern. We are in our little way helping I feel.
:lol:
 
I guess I'm just one of those ever-hopeful types.

I guess to me it was important because it just shows one more time how there are toxic stuff in the commercial soaps, shampoos etc..... I'm pleased that Canada is "trying" to do something about it.....

OMG I'm actually turning into one of those tree huggers since I moved the coast....... :roll:
 
Digit?

Lindy said:
I guess I'm just one of those ever-hopeful types.

I guess to me it was important because it just shows one more time how there are toxic stuff in the commercial soaps, shampoos etc..... I'm pleased that Canada is "trying" to do something about it.....

OMG I'm actually turning into one of those tree huggers since I moved the coast....... :roll:
Trees need hugs too!
Me and tree hugging go way back, really hugging a tree . It felt good. So long ago. Scuse me, I will pop out and hug one imediately, first checking for centerpeeds etc. :lol:
 
Lindy said:
Why's that Deda?

This is the few paragraphs of the article you linked to.

The federal government plans to add two silicon-based chemicals, which are found in shampoo, soap, antiperspirant and hundreds of other personal-care products, to its toxic chemicals list after tests showed they pose a danger to wildlife.

The substances, known as D4 and D5, "are not a concern for human health based on the amount of these substances that an individual would be exposed to through the use of various products, including personal care products," says a statement on Environment Canada's website.

However, tests found that because the substances are so prevalent -- they are also used to make industrial products, including textiles, paints and plastics -- they seep into the environment in large quantities, where they can harm fish and other aquatic organisms.

Therefore, the government will propose setting limits on how much of the chemical can be present in products, and how much can be released into the environment during the manufacturing process.

"This is the first step toward regulating these harmful chemicals," Aaron Freeman, policy director of Environmental Defence, said in a statement. "We urge the government to go the distance by getting these chemicals off the market."
(bolding mine)

D4 and D5 = Cyclopentasiloxane aka Cyclomethicone

If you were using D4 or D5 in a product the INCI would be Cyclomethicone.

Cyclomethicone is something that most of us use in our Bath & Body products.
 
Lindy said:
OMG I'm actually turning into one of those tree huggers since I moved the coast....... :roll:

The last time I hugged a tree, it tried to steal my wallet!!!
 
Deda said:
Lindy said:
Why's that Deda?

The substances, known as D4 and D5, "are not a concern for human health based on the amount of these substances that an individual would be exposed to through the use of various products, including personal care products," says a statement on Environment Canada's website.

However, tests found that because the substances are so prevalent -- they are also used to make industrial products, including textiles, paints and plastics -- they seep into the environment in large quantities, where they can harm fish and other aquatic organisms.

Therefore, the government will propose setting limits...

"This is the first step toward regulating these harmful chemicals," [/b]

Okay , this is a perfect example of the stupidity of Canadian government.

First they tell us the stuff in soap concentrations isn't really a big deal, but in stuff like paints & plastics etc is much is generally in a much higher concentration.

Then, they proceed to pass law forbidding or limiting the already safe amounts in soaps?!?!

Is it me or are these guys drunk???

Shouldn't they be going after the higher concentration stuff & leaving the safer (lower) concentration products alone? Since nobody eats or showers with paint or plastic, why even bother at all? Unless it gasses off into our air supply (from the paint) or leaches out from our water jugs into our drinking water, there is no REAL danger here...

Anything to appear like their jobs actually matter, I guess...
 
Interesting reactions :shock: - I did a search of Voyageur for this product and they don't carry anything with it in it.....when I searched silicone I found one product so I then searched the manufacturers site and couldn't find this ingredient.

I totally get excited when I hear the word "toxic" associated with the commercial end of our industry as for me its just one more reason to buy my products and I think it will reinforce the perception that commercial products use toxic substances in their stuff.
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I did note that they are saying that the levels in bath products are "supposed" to be safe, but how many times have we heard that before about products that turned out to be deadly?

Just thinking out loud and as usual when I saw this on the news last night I got really excited because I felt this was a good opportunity for us, the hand-made soapers, to make even more inroads into commercial soap.
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Since I don't use it in my products it never occurred to me that others do.....
 
Cyclo isn't used in soap, it's more for hair products, lotions, body mist and linen/room spray.
 
Well - I have to say that I'm glad I don't use it in any of my products whether its soap, shampoo, hair rinse, lotions, etc. and plan to make sure I don't in the future....just saying
 
"Note: Cyclomethicone is a generic name for several cyclic dimethyl polysiloxane compounds; according to INCI it refers not only to octamethylcyclotetrasiloxane (D4; INCI name: cyclotetrasiloxane), but also to cyclotrisiloxane (D3), cyclopentasiloxane (D5), cyclohexasiloxane (D6), and cycloheptasiloxane (D7), i.e. compounds of the general formula (CH3)2nOnSin where n = 3-7."
http://ec.europa.eu/health/ph_risk/comm ... _o_035.pdf
so take a chill pill folks.
 
This proposed regulation only applies to Canada.

I buy my Cyclo in the US - From Texas Naturals
and from Lotion Crafters. Both are comprised of D4 & D5.

http://lotioncrafter.com/pdf/Cyclomethi ... esting.pdf
http://shop.texasnaturalsupply.ieasysit ... ductid=CYC

I trust the current research that says it is safe and will continue to use it until solid research proves different.
http://www.cosmeticsdatabase.com/ingred ... nothanks=1

Edited - I check Snowdrift farms. Theirs is decamethylcyclopentasiloxane (D5)
http://www.snowdriftfarm.com/silicone_use.html

Lots of other places sell it, but don't list the exact chemical makeup.
 
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