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Can anyone tell me what the draw backs could be to a true Castile recipe? I know if you run it through Soapcalc it's way off but I also know some people swear by it. Opinions and experiences please
 
I've only made a true Castille once. Personally I found the lather unsatisfying, thin and a little slimy. And it left gluey gunk all over the soapdish. But that's just my experience, some folks love Castille.
 
Some people let themselves get caught up in the whole "slimy" thing, I like castile and can't think of any drawbacks.
 
If you want a gentle cleansing soap , castille is perfect . I like it , it is not my favorite though . I add sugar and silk to give it less of a slimey factor . It is very nice infused with calendula or chamomile along with silk and sugar.

Kitn
 
Well, I don't think that I am caught up in the slimey thing. I just don't like castile soap at all. I have other soap preferences.
 
I have made an 80% olive oil bar with the remainder coconut oil, and I don't like the gumminess that arises when the soap is left too wet. But the lather from a dry bar is lovely and soothing. It's not my favourite soap, but I would make it again and age it well.
 
!00% Castile can be somewhat disconcerting if you are used to soaps being a certain way. The texture is not like any other kind of soap I've ever used before. I find that people either love them or hate them. Most of my testers aren't really that into them at all. However, they love the Castile-types I make with 50% olive oil, though.

I personally only like 100% Castiles when used with a facial cloth. I hate them when using just my hands to lather with. With a cloth, the lather is so delightfully creamy and luscious, but in my bare hand, it is very goopy and slimey, like egg whites. This is because of the oleic acid from the olive oil. When the soap gets wet the oleic acid goes all soluble on you and forms a colliodal gel on the surface, and when you lift your bare hand from the surface of the soap, you can see tons of goopy strands stretching from your hand to the soap. That gives many people the heebeejeebees or a big Eeeew! factor if they are not expecting it.

No offense to all you Castile lovers out there! 8) Like I said, I like them, too, but only with a facial cloth.


IrishLass :)
 
I made 97% oo w/ 3% castor last night for the very first time. I added dead sea salt. I am hoping it comes out well. It looks fantastic. I was told that adding castor oil would help with the sudsing.
 
I tried my 100% olive, admittedly before it fully cured, and did not like it too much. I made a 75% OO, 20% coconut, 5% castor that is incredable. It is a soft bar, but the lather and feel of the soap are wonderful.

To each their own!
 
IrishLass, very good to know about the oleic acid forming the gel. Makes sense! Thanks for the info!
 
I read yesterday that a soap only has to have 72% OO to be considered Castille. That leaves a lot of room for other oils. I've tried making a modified Castille. I love the mildness of OO, but wanted to have lots of suds and little more hardness to the bar. I'm going to keep experimenting with modified Castille recipes.

There is a new forum member who is quite a fan of 100% OO Castille. His screen name is Bilal. You might want to contact him for input.

Good luck!
 
Miss Elaine said:
I read yesterday that a soap only has to have 72% OO to be considered Castille.

Actually, I think that the 72% OO soap is considered Marseille (as in Savon de Marseille)
 
IrishLass said:
This is because of the oleic acid from the olive oil. When the soap gets wet the oleic acid goes all soluble on you and forms a colliodal gel on the surface, and when you lift your bare hand from the surface of the soap, you can see tons of goopy strands stretching from your hand to the soap. That gives many people the heebeejeebees or a big Eeeew! factor if they are not expecting it.

No offense to all you Castile lovers out there! 8) Like I said, I like them, too, but only with a facial cloth.

IrishLass :)

Well there ya go!! Knowing what it is at least makes it bearable.Colloidal gel sounds heaps better than frog-slime! Thanks for the explaination Irishlass :) :)
 
gekko62 said:
Well there ya go!! Knowing what it is at least makes it bearable.Colloidal gel sounds heaps better than frog-slime! Thanks for the explaination Irishlass :) :)

You're welcome. :) A chemist on another soaping board explained the whole colloidal thing to me, and yes- it sounds so much better than frog slime! :lol:

IrishLass
 
bconrade884 said:
I made 97% oo w/ 3% castor last night for the very first time. I added dead sea salt. I am hoping it comes out well. It looks fantastic. I was told that adding castor oil would help with the sudsing.
how much salt? if you use very much at all it inhibits lather (only coconut oil soap seems to lather in the presence of salt water)
 
to me, a castile is 100% olive oil. many other soapers call their 90% OO soaps castiles (I agree - those are Bastile's)
according to Dr Bromner (sp?) it's any all veggie soap.

there is NO set definition.
 
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