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I order Yellow dock powder to try next. But, I am still working with the alkanet root for the liquid soap.

You can shave the bigger one and try to save some bars. If you can't, more soap for the home! I wonder what the middle on the little one will look like. I say pictures on a color tutorial what elderberry berry powder is supost to look like. Here is the soap color samples. I like all of them...

The little one is nice looking. Is it done curing?

Liquid soap is like cp soap you are suppost to keep the ph at a leave that inhibits growth of bacteria, molds, and fungus. But, I guess if left in the water to dilute it would change that and water loves to bring in a host of unwanted friends. Very good point to bring up. I think the optiphen...

Thanks so much for all the help. It's true you don't know how the customer is going to use the product. Thank you Thank you!

What was the color to the cp or liquid to the one you tried? I am still working a color out to the infused water. I think I might be on to something.

LiquaPar Oil had parabens in it, and so I can use that. But it would work. I am still waiting to find out if I can make a liquid soap salt scrub that doesn't need preservatives?

Hmm I am going to try that! :D

I infused the oil but it came out a burnt brown maroon color either due to either the temp of the crock pot or the alkalinity of the potassium hydroxide. So, that was why I was wondering if I could infuse the water with alkanet? I wouldn't think it would cause spoilage as long as the ph is right.

Could you add alkanet powder to the water when you go to dilute the soap to make??? Or would that cause spoilage?

I cooked the liguid alkanet in a crock pot? I hope the crock pot didn't burn the alkanet powder? I noticed alkanet is sensitive to heat. In my cp it is beautiful, but they only reach temps of 80-90f . Have you tried alkant in liguid soap?

I was hoping to make a lavender baby bubble bath/shampoo, so I didn't do the borax because babies drink the bath water all the time. I have 3the boys and I don't know how there is any water left in the tub after there through. Ha ha I am just hoping to save this soap. Hmmm I am very curious how...

I did the water and phenol. test and they were good, but the book told me to neut. anyway. I should have just stopped without using the citric acid. Hmm now how to fix it.

I know shipping is a killer! I have tried to stay away from borax. I love the stuff, but I have got mix reviews from people. I go only for the all natural and when I say natural I mean natural and non harmful to health as much as I can. I know borax is non harmful. I was majoring in chemistry...

I have seen a big debate about the Optiphen being not really natural. O the dilemmas???? I live in Organic Country, which is good, but people really want a true natural product. Hmmm I really want to do some type of salt scrub, but what to do to make it really natural. Like I said earlier maybe...

Mountain Rose Herbs is just up the road from me. :) I love them. I picked an order just last week from them. We also have GloryBee just up the street too. :)

I am following a recipe from the book natural liquid soaps, and it says to add citric acid to neutralize it. what I am wondering is if you really need the citric acid part? I have noticed many a recipes without it. Hmmm

Is the Optiphen natural? Sounds like it would work.

I love soap of all kinds. I JUST LOVE SOAPS!!! Sorry I got a little happy. he he he Where would I get elderberry except the forest? Are you going to try the elderberry with the liquid or cp soap first? O I have a question too to ask. I added the boiling 20% citric acid solution to neutralize...

Hmm I will have to research it too. It seems like liquid soap burns herbs more because you can't have any free oils. I thought it would be easier than it has been to make liquid soap. What a pain!