Trace speed

[carrottop]

Hey Everybody. I know some FOs will speed trace. I've used the same temps, etc. I wondered if soaping temps had any effect? I really don't remember. Thanks, C

 

[agriffin]

Yes, soaping cooler tends to slow down trace. However you have to be careful if you have solid butter/fats. Soaping cooler can give you false trace or cause the butters/fats to resolidify.

If you have a speedy FO. Try adding it before you add the lye water and hand stir to trace.

 

[see]

i was wondering if there's anything that speeds it up besides fo? i only use eo, but use ev oo and it takes foreverrrrrrr. lol

i lowered my oo to be close to the po, but have not notice any change. i get the ev at a pretty close price to the refined, and the people i trade w/ like to see it on the label.

are there any additives, or cheap additive, that speed up trace? i would like to stick w/ only "natural" additives.

peace

 

[SudsyKat]

I'm wondering why you need to speed up trace. Are you stirring by hand? There's nothing wrong with that, of course, but most people seem to use a stick blender and I have never heard of anyone having a problem getting their soap to trace (CP soap anyway). I myself have had trouble getting my soap paste for liquid soap to trace, but that's another story I haven't been at this that long, but that's my 2 cents.

 

[see]

didnt mean to thread hijack but if you were responding to me, i assume that my long trace time if from extra virgin oo. ive been told it takes a long time to trace???

 

[SudsyKat]

Yes, olive oil takes longer to trace than some other oils.

 

[carrottop]

my reasoning

for the trace speed post was the hope of slowing down from some FOs. Tried a new formula today with local cold pressed canola (15%) and a rabbit fast FO. I had lots of time for swirling.

 

[SudsyKat]

Besides keeping temps low, you can also choose oils which trace slower - like Olive oil. I'm not sure which other ones might be good for slower trace. I know that Castor tends to speed up trace a bit, and hard oils/butters do as well. Maybe someone else has input on slow tracing oils.

 

[c.a.p.]

I use lard a lot and it takes a while to trace despite what's printed in literature as a quicker trace fat. OO takes longer, at least for me.

To slow down trace with a finicky fo or eo, add liquid lecithin at 1 tsp ppo. It's a natural product you can find in the health food store. Irena told me to add this when I was having trouble with rose geraneum. I haven't made another batch yet, but I did use it today when I made a batch with bay. Worked like a charm. I can't thank Soapbuddy enough. Using full water also helps to slow down trace.