thickeners

[Guest]

Has anyone tried guar gum? just wondering about any experiences with it.

 

[judymoody]

For what application?

I have used hyaluronic acid, and naturajel (sclerotium gum) in facial moisturizers and crothix for liquid shampoo. I have xanthan gum but have yet to use it. I read somewhere that guar can be hard to incorporate? But I don't remember the details, unfortunately.

The Herbarie has good information on its website about how to use various thickeners, as does the mighty Swift.

 

[lsg]

I have used something called Guar Silk and also liquid Crothix in my shampoos. Both are available from the Herbarie:

http://www.theherbarie.com/Thickeners-& ... -c-46.html

 

[Guest]

Thank you both. Naturajel sounds promising. @ judy, i was just curious in general. specifically though, i am trying to figure out how to thicken some cp snot (lol) i have in a liquid soap pump dispenser ... do you know where your HA is sourced from?

hmmm, guar silk sounds good too. i just looked that up, it seems to not be soluble in oils. i wonder if that is why judy heard it may be difficult to incorporate.

 

[lsg]

The recipe I use it in is for shampoo. It says "Hydrate GuarSilk in room temperature distilled water and mix well. Continue to stir until completely hydrated – about 15 minutes." I found that I didn't have to stir for 15 minutes. I stirred it well for about 3 minutes and then let it set for the rest of the time.

 

[Guest]

The recipe I use it in is for shampoo. It says "Hydrate GuarSilk in room temperature distilled water and mix well. Continue to stir until completely hydrated – about 15 minutes." I found that I didn't have to stir for 15 minutes. I stirred it well for about 3 minutes and then let it set for the rest of the time.

makes sense. do you like the consistency it gives?

 

[lsg]

Yes, I love the shampoo recipe. You can find recipes using Guarsilk at the Herbarie website.
http://www.theherbarie.com/The-Formulary-p-7.html

 

[ToniD]

I like guarsilk in my shampoo, too. I don't know how or if it would work in cp. I think it might be really hard to mix on.

 

[Guest]

I like guarsilk in my shampoo, too. I don't know how or if it would work in cp. I think it might be really hard to mix on.

what do you mean, 'hard to mix on'?

 

[ToniD]

Sorry, hard to mix in. . Typing on my iPad=more mistakes.

When you add guarsilk, you put it water with a high shear mixer. it has to be added rather slowly and mixed well otherwise it clumps. If you want to add it to cp already mixed with water, which I understood to be your goal, I think it could be hard to get it mixed in evenly without clumping. I've wasted it by trying to add it to too little liquid and then I couldn't get the clumps out even with adding more water.

 

[Guest]

cool, thats what i thought you might have meant, but i didnt want to assume. and thanks for the explanation. do you find it equally soluble in water as oil?

 

[ToniD]

I have only used guarsilk in water before using it in my surfactant based shampoo, so I don't know how it would do in oil. Sorry I can't help

 

[Guest]

no worries. thanks for the reply.