Soft Butter in Bar Soaps

[annashelt]

For the first time, I've decided to try avocado butter in a bar soap recipe. This stuff is SOFT. It feels like any basic lotion at room temperature, it's not "hard" like shea butter is at room temp.

Is there any special process for adding a particularly soft butter to bar soap, or am I otherthinking this? I want to maintain the beautiful, creamy, melty properties of the avocado butter in my bar soap, but I'm not sure if that's possible? Maybe it just goes in like any other ingredient?

 

[dmcgee5034]

I have used it a few times, and used it like any other. I didn’t notice any negative/soft effects in my finished soap. As a side note, I stopped using it in soap when I learned that it is a compound product. BB list there as:
Ingredients (Common Name): Avocado Oil, Vegetable Oil
Ingredients (INCI Name): Persea Gratissima Oil, Hydrogenated Vegetable Oil
I swapped to Mango Butter, which I love and use in soap and lotion bars.

ETA - hi and welcome

 

[DeeAnna]

It's been my experience that the physical texture of a fat doesn't translate to how the texture of a soap made from that fat. Once NaOH gets done cutting the fat apart into glycerin and fatty acids, the fat is no longer the original fat.

Aloe "butter" is a human creation -- it's basically shortening like Crisco with a liquid oil mixed in. I gather it's mostly intended to be used in lotions, body butters, salves, not so much in soap.

 

[Savage Daughter]

I have used it a few times, and used it like any other. I didn’t notice any negative/soft effects in my finished soap. As a side note, I stopped using it in soap when I learned that it is a compound product. BB list there as:
Ingredients (Common Name): Avocado Oil, Vegetable Oil
Ingredients (INCI Name): Persea Gratissima Oil, Hydrogenated Vegetable Oil
I swapped to Mango Butter, which I love and use in soap and lotion bars.

ETA - hi and welcome

That's exactly why I stopped using these kinds of 'butters' as well. Reading MSDS sheets & other associated product documentation is very much an educational eye opener.

I have also found that some of these types of butters are nothing more than an oil whipped into a soy 'butter' base, which in itself is something I don't like as 94% or so of soybeans grown in the US are GMO crops.

This is a thread I just noticed: https://www.soapmakingforum.com/threads/soy-based-butters.92307/

 

[annashelt]

You guys have some great advice, it's too bad I didn't read a little more about Avocado Butter before buying 2 lbs of the stuff! You live and learn, maybe I'll try a bar with it anyways, but I'l also look into Mango Butter!

 

[cmzaha]

If you do your research there is or used to be 100% avocado butter available. Otherwise just buy avocado oil for use in soap or lotions. It is pricey but nice. I am sorry I do not remember who the supplier was I purchased my 100% avocado butter from but it was firm like Shea. It was not from one of the large soap suppliers.

 

[Ford]

You could combine it. With another butter. Until you use it up. 25% avo, 75% mango. Just a thought. Or make lotion with it. Don't give up, never surrender!

 

[dmcgee5034]

I just used the pound I had….

Now for my bath and body project. I’ve had this pound of avocado butter that I bought from BB before I learned that it’s not something I’ll be using going forward. In the spirit of what I believe is from Mr & Mrs @Zing - use what you’ve got in the cupboard idea, I needed to figure out what to do with it, because I didn’t want to let it go to waste. I found this recipe on BB and gave it a go. I piped it all cute into sterilized small mason jars, and forgot to take a pic so forgive my reopened jar to give you an idea of the end result. I swapped the scent and used Sandalwood Vanilla. Using the excess left on the beaters and piping bag rubbed in, my skin feels very nice and the product feels very silky.

The recipe calls for 14oz of avocado butter, but I wanted to use the full pound, so I used the calculators at WSP to help me convert to %, and then adjusted all the amounts accordingly.

https://www.brambleberry.com/articl...68.html#q=Avocado+butter&lang=default&start=1

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[Christa10]

I recently posted about avocado butter after I learned that most avocado butters are mostly hydrogenated soy oil with added avocado oil of about 3%, which disappointed me. I couldn't find a true avocado butter. Someone on the forum sent a link for a pure avocado butter but it is very expensive. I'll try to find the link and add it to the forum in case someone is interested. Ultimately I decided that it would be more economical for me to use whatever butters I prefer, such as Cocoa, Mango and Shea, and add avocado oil as one of my oils. I also wondered what to choose when using the soap calculator and selecting avocado butter, when the butters that are available are mostly hydrogenated soy oil, so I started selecting soy because I wasn't sure whether the avocado butter in the calculator was true avocado butter or not.

Here is the link, supplied by not_ally: https://www.thesulu.com/products/3-...refined-avocado-butter?variant=21415723892849