slow moving recipe

[Jessrof]

What makes a recipe slow moving? I would love to try some swirling techniques but my recipes all move too quickly. Any slow moving recipe using crisco or lard since they are cheap?

 

[OliveOil2]

Are you taking a water discount? Also what temp are you soaping at. Those two things can really speed up your recipe. Someone else will hopefully chime in on the Crisco & Lard since I Haven't used either. I have used the Spectrum brand palm shortening which is similar to Crisco and don't think it speeds things up.

 

[Relle]

I don't use Crisco or lard.

To keep things from moving fast, use full water, soap at room temp, use a known FO that won't speed trace, not florals.

 

[judymoody]

Lard is pretty slow as is olive oil. Pomace (which is cheaper) is speedier.

As mentioned earlier, full water and well behaved fragrances will also keep things moving at a more controlled pace.

 

[OliveOil2]

Sorry my answer wasn't very clear, glad that it was explained more clearly. I was trying to do too many things at once. If you are using a soap calculator that just gives a range for water, you can look at Soap Calc and look at the % of water 38% is full water.

 

[Jessrof]

I used full fat water and a recipe of 30 oo, 30 co, 30 po, 10co. Mixed around 90F and it sped up so quickly ai ended up with a gloppy mess. I just want a good slowing moving recipe to get the hang of fun swirls (like the peacock swirl). Using a cheaper fat is a plus seeing as it might be a throe away soap and I don't want to waste

 

[lsg]

I would think that using a high percentage of soft oils would give you a slower moving recipe. Many people say that olive pomace speeds trace. I like rice bran oil instead of olive oil.

 

[Jessrof]

Reviving this thread as I am still having issues with my soap moving to quickly. Yesterday I ended up with a gloopy mess.

 

[Second Impression]

Try lowering the castor oil. Swapping palm for lard also slows things down, at least in my experience.

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[PinkCupcake]

I use mostly olive (grade A), with coconut and a tiny percentage of castor. I soap at room temp. Even with a water discount, it takes a very long time to trace.

 

[porumi]

I use mostly olive (grade A), with coconut and a tiny percentage of castor. I soap at room temp. Even with a water discount, it takes a very long time to trace.

Dont use add palm to made it harder?


Thanks,
Porumi

 

[porumi]

Dont use add palm to made it harder?


Thanks,
Porumi

Clearly too tired to type i meant to ask, dont you use palm to make soap harder?


Thanks,
Porumi

 

[PinkCupcake]

Clearly too tired to type i meant to ask, dont you use palm to make soap harder?


Thanks,
Porumi

I used to use palm, but I'm kind of a lazy soaper, and I wanted to simplify my basic recipe. I do use a little sodium lactate, which is supposed to make a harder bar.

 

[porumi]

I used to use palm, but I'm kind of a lazy soaper, and I wanted to simplify my basic recipe. I do use a little sodium lactate, which is supposed to make a harder bar.

Does it work and do you like the results?


Thanks,
Porumi

 

[Jessrof]

So for soaping at room temp, I just wait until the lye is dissolved in the water (reaches around 150F and use all the oils as is (solids and liquid) Is that correct?

 

[houseofwool]

So for soaping at room temp, I just wait until the lye is dissolved in the water (reaches around 150F and use all the oils as is (solids and liquid) Is that correct?

I've found I have better luck if I measure out the solid fats first and add the hot lye mixture to just them. Once they are melted, then I add my liquid oils. This brings the temp down quite a bit. From there proceed as normal.


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[PinkCupcake]

Does it work and do you like the results?


Thanks,
Porumi

Do you mean does the sodium lactate harden the bar? I think it does. My bars aren't as hard as when I tried a coconut-oil only bar (those are like ROCKS), but they are hard enough not to dent with reasonable handling. I feel like it's a good compromise to allow me to make a fairly hard bar that's not super drying.