Bex1982
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Honeylady do you sell beeswax? Interested.
Replacement for hydrog soy oil
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I do not have any extra beeswax to sell. :sad: I wish I did.
Most of what I have is called "cappings wax". When you harvest honey, it is covered with a very thin layer of very pretty new wax. You scape that off so the honey underneath can come out of the comb. The comb then goes back into the hive for the bees to recycle.
I use my cappings wax for lip balms, because it smells and tastes fabulous. I also do not have the ability to make those nifty little pastilles which are SO much easier to measure and weigh. It's like breaking up a chocolate bar without the score lines. :think:
I am now experimenting with hydrogenated cotton seed oil for soap making. It used to be the main ingredient in Crisco, which stands for Crystallized Cotton Seed Oil. It was actually originally developed for *soap* making, then became popular for cooking. Crisco is now soy and palm. Meh.
Many strides have been made in the last 50 years, and while it is still a resource intensive crop, cotton uses far fewer chemicals than it used to, and most of the genetic modifications are decades older than the new Monsanto stuff. How safe is it? You can now actually put a hive of bees in a cotton field for about 2 weeks while the plants bloom, and make cotton honey. I can't put bees on soybeans or corn. They'll be sprayed with something that will also kill the bees, and the honey would be poisoned.
Texas natural supply dot com has cotton seed oil, but frankly, it's about the same price as hydrogenated soy. I like lard, but there are issues surrounding it, too. If you can find soy oil from the Crunchy Granola stores, you can use that, but it will be pricier.
Rock and a hard place! We DO need something non GMO, environmentally friendlier, and cheap, as soap makers. I offer up some of my personal blubber for experimentation. My left thigh alone could provide a solid fat source for at least a year! :mrgreen:
~Honey~
Most of what I have is called "cappings wax". When you harvest honey, it is covered with a very thin layer of very pretty new wax. You scape that off so the honey underneath can come out of the comb. The comb then goes back into the hive for the bees to recycle.
I use my cappings wax for lip balms, because it smells and tastes fabulous. I also do not have the ability to make those nifty little pastilles which are SO much easier to measure and weigh. It's like breaking up a chocolate bar without the score lines. :think:
I am now experimenting with hydrogenated cotton seed oil for soap making. It used to be the main ingredient in Crisco, which stands for Crystallized Cotton Seed Oil. It was actually originally developed for *soap* making, then became popular for cooking. Crisco is now soy and palm. Meh.
Many strides have been made in the last 50 years, and while it is still a resource intensive crop, cotton uses far fewer chemicals than it used to, and most of the genetic modifications are decades older than the new Monsanto stuff. How safe is it? You can now actually put a hive of bees in a cotton field for about 2 weeks while the plants bloom, and make cotton honey. I can't put bees on soybeans or corn. They'll be sprayed with something that will also kill the bees, and the honey would be poisoned.
Texas natural supply dot com has cotton seed oil, but frankly, it's about the same price as hydrogenated soy. I like lard, but there are issues surrounding it, too. If you can find soy oil from the Crunchy Granola stores, you can use that, but it will be pricier.
Rock and a hard place! We DO need something non GMO, environmentally friendlier, and cheap, as soap makers. I offer up some of my personal blubber for experimentation. My left thigh alone could provide a solid fat source for at least a year! :mrgreen:
~Honey~
Bex1982
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Haha, you're funny. We could just do a fight club thing and use people fat. Yucky lol. Probably makes good toxic soap haha.
Too bad you don't sell or have extra beeswax. I thought about bee keeping but it seems like a big responsibility and I'd hate to mess something up for the lil guys. My great gramps used to bee keep.
When I started making soap I used crisco that still had cotton seed oil. Shortly after that I think they removed it. But it was already mixed with palm. Anyway it did make good soap actually.
So ive been using that sustainable palm oil, I just got 4 lb to try it out. Not sure I like it, the soap is nice but it's soft n flexible after 2 weeks and with the old recipe my soap was hard after a week, definitely 2 weeks. I don't notice it being any less drying than coconut (in the squishy bar ive been testing). At this point I feel like the whole "coconut drying" thing is a little exaggerated.
Too bad you don't sell or have extra beeswax. I thought about bee keeping but it seems like a big responsibility and I'd hate to mess something up for the lil guys. My great gramps used to bee keep.
When I started making soap I used crisco that still had cotton seed oil. Shortly after that I think they removed it. But it was already mixed with palm. Anyway it did make good soap actually.
So ive been using that sustainable palm oil, I just got 4 lb to try it out. Not sure I like it, the soap is nice but it's soft n flexible after 2 weeks and with the old recipe my soap was hard after a week, definitely 2 weeks. I don't notice it being any less drying than coconut (in the squishy bar ive been testing). At this point I feel like the whole "coconut drying" thing is a little exaggerated.
