Ran across this today? Any thoughts....? I use Mica.

[agriffin]

*****Our soaps DO NOT CONTAIN MICA!!!
Mica is made from pulverized (crushed) rock which tends to have sharp microscopic edges causing micro-tears when buffed onto the skin. Therefore making your skin even more damaged!

http://www.etsy.com/listing/46814701/mi ... 2&includes[]=tags&includes[]=title

 

[NancyRogers]

Since most micas are approved for eye area, I seriously doubt if using mica in your soap could cause any damage to your skin. In fact, I would be willing to bet that your wash cloth or pouffy is more abrasive.

 

[soapsmurf]

*****Our soaps DO NOT CONTAIN MICA!!!
Mica is made from pulverized (crushed) rock which tends to have sharp microscopic edges causing micro-tears when buffed onto the skin. Therefore making your skin even more damaged!

http://www.etsy.com/listing/46814701/mi ... 2&includes[]=tags&includes[]=title

The claim about the mica is probably technically sound. Since it is pulverized rock, it's possible to have microscopically jagged edges, but whether or not it would actually cause damage to the skin is another issue. It's definitely true that they are used for mineral eye shadows, etc. Some people refuse to use pulverized apricot kernels for the same reason given by that etsy seller.

 

[Sunny]

I have read this too, can't remember where, but I am not concerned about it at all. As someone else said, we scrub with loofa and washcloths, salt and sugar, which I'm sure cause "microscopic scratches" on our skin as well.

 

[Tabitha]

Some people can only sell their soap by putting down other peoles products or ingredients. I would never buy from a seller screaming about how they don't use something that everyone else uses which makes them better. It just makes them annoying.

"I should get a bigger piece of cake because yesterday Johnny picked hisi nose & I saw him." That is how I see that type of comment.

I see that mistake at so many online shops. It is unprofessional and juvinile. If they do not have more tact than that who wants their product? Not I.

 

[agriffin]

I agree, it's rediculous. I just wanted other people's thoughts. You make a good point, Tab...I can't stand it when people put other people's products or ingredients down. Especially other soapers that put down people that make glycerin soap. I see alot of that on Etsy also.

 

[soapsmurf]

I agree, it's rediculous. I just wanted other people's thoughts. You make a good point, Tab...I can't stand it when people put other people's products or ingredients down. Especially other soapers that put down people that make glycerin soap. I see alot of that on Etsy also.

Yeah, if you choose to use micas, that's perfectly fine. One small consideration for some who stick to oxides is that they can label their soaps as all-natural, whereas micas can sometimes be colored artificially and so are not labeled as such.

 

[Sunny]

Yeah, if you choose to use micas, that's perfectly fine. One small consideration for some who stick to oxides is that they can label their soaps as all-natural, whereas micas can sometimes be colored artificially and so are not labeled as such.

People shouldn't label their soaps all-natural to begin with. As carebear has pointed out several times, LYE is not natural. Anyone who calls their soap natural is lying. Now that's a person I won't buy from, someone who lies about their product. :wink:

 

[soapsmurf]

Yeah, if you choose to use micas, that's perfectly fine. One small consideration for some who stick to oxides is that they can label their soaps as all-natural, whereas micas can sometimes be colored artificially and so are not labeled as such.

People shouldn't label their soaps all-natural to begin with. As carebear has pointed out several times, LYE is not natural. Anyone who calls their soap natural is lying. Now that's a person I won't buy from, someone who lies about their product. :wink:

I agree with you. I have seen, though, some print sources state that lye need not be listed as a component of the final product since it should have been totally consumed in saponification. Testing of a finished bar should not indicate presence of lye.

 

[carebear]

Yeah, if you choose to use micas, that's perfectly fine. One small consideration for some who stick to oxides is that they can label their soaps as all-natural, whereas micas can sometimes be colored artificially and so are not labeled as such.

People shouldn't label their soaps all-natural to begin with. As carebear has pointed out several times, LYE is not natural. Anyone who calls their soap natural is lying. Now that's a person I won't buy from, someone who lies about their product. :wink:

I agree with you. I have seen, though, some print sources state that lye need not be listed as a component of the final product since it should have been totally consumed in saponification. Testing of a finished bar should not indicate presence of lye.

well that only works if people analyze their soaps and list all the components that are present and in the proper order - which of course they don't. do you know how much water is left in your cured soap? if not, how do you know in what order to list your ingredients? have you calculated how much glycerin is produced by the reaction of oils and lye and then included it in the ingredient list in the proper order? do you know precisely what chemical changes happen with any additives you use, and them accurately reflect that in your ingredient list? I doubt it.

list what goes in. including the lye. or it's simply a lie. IMO.

 

[Raksava*]

i have seen soap ingredient lists such as- 'saponified oils of olive, palm, coconut, castor oil, jojoba oil, peppermint essential oil'

i mean, technically that IS what s in the finished soap, right? but i still think its dodgy to not put lye on the list.

 

[Hazel]

*****Our soaps DO NOT CONTAIN MICA!!!
Mica is made from pulverized (crushed) rock which tends to have sharp microscopic edges causing micro-tears when buffed onto the skin. Therefore making your skin even more damaged!

http://www.etsy.com/listing/46814701/mi ... 2&includes[]=tags&includes[]=title

When I saw this comment, my first thought was "oh no, another scare tactic to sell something". It's unfortunate that some people have to use such tactics. They take advantage of the ignorance of consumers by maligning something that is safe (as long as it's approved for cosmetic use, of course). There'll probably be comments and warnings popping up around the Internet about the dangers of micas. :roll:

What's next? Micas are also used in potting soil, car paint and axle grease. Is the next warning going to be "Would you use something on your skin that's used for making plant soil or in car grease?"

The epidermal layer is a lot tougher than most people realize; after all, it is made up of dead cells. It's funny since most people use exfoliants to create "scratches" in order to remove the stratum corneum.

Here's a new version for all the soapmakers who use micas -

"]*****Our soaps DO CONTAIN MICA!!!
Mica is made from pulverized mineral which acts as a mild abrasive to assist in exfoliating and buffing away the dull surface cells. Therefore encouraging more cell rejuvenation and making your skin even more soft!

 

[agriffin]

*****Our soaps DO NOT CONTAIN MICA!!!
Mica is made from pulverized (crushed) rock which tends to have sharp microscopic edges causing micro-tears when buffed onto the skin. Therefore making your skin even more damaged!

http://www.etsy.com/listing/46814701/mi ... 2&includes[]=tags&includes[]=title

When I saw this comment, my first thought was "oh no, another scare tactic to sell something". It's unfortunate that some people have to use such tactics. They take advantage of the ignorance of consumers by maligning something that is safe (as long as it's approved for cosmetic use, of course). There'll probably be comments and warnings popping up around the Internet about the dangers of micas. :roll:

What's next? Micas are also used in potting soil, car paint and axle grease. Is the next warning going to be "Would you use something on your skin that's used for making plant soil or in car grease?"

The epidermal layer is a lot tougher than most people realize; after all, it is made up of dead cells. It's funny since most people use exfoliants to create "scratches" in order to remove the stratum corneum.

Here's a new version for all the soapmakers who use micas -

"]*****Our soaps DO CONTAIN MICA!!!
Mica is made from pulverized mineral which acts as a mild abrasive to assist in exfoliating and buffing away the dull surface cells. Therefore encouraging more cell rejuvenation and making your skin even more soft!

Nice! Well said!

 

[Hazel]

Thanks. Of course, I was joking when I wrote it. But after I wrote it, I realized that the last sentence makes it look like mica would alter the skin. Wouldn't the FDA then consider such a claim to be catagorized as a "drug" and not a cosmetic?

Am I making sense? Sorry, I'm still tired and haven't consumed enough coffee to get my synapses firing.