Question : Whipped Soap

[yoenoess]

Soap Making is very Fun, CP is my favourite

After read article by <a>Nizzy</a>
<a>JackiK</a>

im trying to whip my own soap.
Im using 70 gr PO and 20 gr CO, its in Liquid state. and a hand blander around 20 minutes. but nothing happend, it stay still


does i have to put them to fridge then whip it?

my place quite hot, around 30 Celcius. so all oil naturally at liquid state

Help Please

 

[soap25]

Whipped

Hi!

I made a bowl of whipped soap yesterday. My Recipe is

200 gr hard fats (Cocos, Palm etc.)
150 gr. soft oils (canola, olive ´...)

I took the hard fats out of the refrigerator and let them get soft a little bit - room temperature 20 ° C - and started to whisk the fats. After all lumbs were gone I added the soft oils. Still mixer on medium speed Then the stuff went for a couple of hours back in the refrigerator to cool down again and get harder. Meanwhile I made the lyewater and let it cool down as well. Slowly added the cold lye to the cold fluffy fats - mixer still working - and then i decorated my soapcakes.

It worked fine.

The oilmixtur must be cold and fluffy enough ( like real whipped cream), otherwise it wont work.

Either you move to a colder place - like southpole - or you stick the oils in the refrigerator long enough.

More luck next time

 

[carebear]

liquid oils won't "whip". make sure they are at least semi-solid. this is on Nizzy's site somewhere.

 

[busymakinsoap!]

If you put your palm oil and coconut oil in the fridge until firm, you should be able to whip it. Add your liquid portion of the oils (i.e olive if you are following Nizzy's recipe) after you have whipped the hardened oils.

 

[Lindy]

This is one I so want to try... I love the look of it...

Question for those that sell - how well does the whipped soaps sell?

Thanks

 

[yoenoess]

Thanks guys

ok, I'll put my PO and CO to fridge now

i hope it hard enough in couples hours


@lindy
im planning to make cupcake soap

for the bottom of cupcake im using regular CP
for the top of cupcake, the creamy part, im planning to use to those whipped soap

 

[Elly]

Your basic recipe requires around 70-80% of solid oils such as PO, CO, CB or other butters and the rest in liquid oils. I made a batch with
60% PO, 16% CO, 18% OO & 6% Castor, SF @ 10%, I am very happy with the results. Good luck experimenting :wink:

 

[yoenoess]

After couples hours 140 gram PO and 60 GR CO becomes solid. yippy

then I hand blander it, after 1st 10 minutes, it becomes great. nicely whipped. but after 20 minutes it turn back to oil due my hot weather. around 30 Celcius here

yeah... im living in tropical country. hot and humid here

i wont give up. so i googled and found:

"Palm oil products are made using milling and refining processes: first using fractionation, with crystallization and separation processes to obtain solid (stearin), and liquid (olein) fractions. By melting and degumming, impurities can be removed and then the oil filtered and bleached. Next, physical refining removes smells and coloration, to produce refined bleached deodorized palm oil, or RBDPO, and free sheer fatty acids, used as an important raw material in the manufacture of soaps, washing powder and other hygiene and personal care products. RBDPO is the basic oil product which can be sold on the world's commodity markets, although many companies fractionate it out further into palm olein, for cooking oil, or other products.[32]" (Wikipedia)


and i also found "Palm Stearin" on SoapCalc

does anyone ever use Palm stearin? does it makes oil becomes stable at hard state (even on 30 celcius Room temperature)

or is it better to use stearic acid or beeswax??

 

[busymakinsoap!]

Sorry havnt used the palm stearin....but....If you whip your batch and add the lye and then it begins to soften you could try waiting a while and see if the lye start to firm it up. I've noticed that mine gets a bit firmer after its been sitting for a while.

Also Im wondering if you could use a hard oil like cocoa butter - you would have to melt it down first and then add it to the cooled CO and PO and then whip it for a while until the cocoa butter begins to firm up?? Just an idea but it could work??

 

[JackiK]

I followed Nizzy's directions almost to the tee. Learned a few lessons along the way. I measured out my oils according to her recipe, but didn't melt the hard ones, just put them in a bowl in the fridge overnight. When I tried to use the mixer on them, the coconut oil was so hard it was impossible. There were lingering chunks of it in my finished soap.

Second attempt, melted all the oils together, hard and soft, left in fridge overnight along with the bowl of mixed lye solution. Whipped the with my hand mixer oils until they were the consistency of divinity (a candy my mom used to make). I'm guessing it took ten minutes or so. Slowly added lye water, mixing well between additions. When I used fragrance or color, I added it last.

I've used this method numerous times and it turns out perfect every time. I've got so much soap laying around, I forgot to test it. Will put a bar in the tub now. By the way, it looks great spooned into small heart-shaped molds.

 

[soap25]

I use Stearin (I think its the same you mean) - but not for Whipped soap.

Stearin is a granulate (like salt) and melts at a high temperature. I use it for transparent soaps. As soon as you add the lye to the Stearin-Oil mixture it gets hard immediatly. Two reasons why it might not work in whipped soaps.

Maybe you can but the pot with the cold fluffy oilmixtur in an bowl of ice water before adding the lye? Maybe that helps keep the temperatur low and the mixtur fluffy?

 

[yoenoess]

@JackiK
you are my idol, i follow your posting and nizzy
how cold is your roomterature?

@soap25
using ice is a good ideas for making small quantity
im planning selling soap, so im looking better way to make it

thanks for suggestion

 

[JackiK]

@JackiK
you are my idol, i follow your posting and nizzy
how cold is your roomterature?

Well, the last time I made whipped soap, our humidity level was at a humane level and the summer heat had not set in. I usually keep my thermometer at around 72 degrees in the house.

I tried the method of putting the bowl in an ice bath but had no luck. I guess if it's much warmer where you're soaping, that would be a good idea.

Keep us posted on your adventures!