Question about replacing lye water with oat milk

[bristles]

Should I freeze my oat milk before adding the lye to prevent scorching or would it ok just using chilled oat milk. Perhaps using chilled oat milk in an ice bath and mix in the lye slowly.

Making a hot process soap

Thanks!

 

[earlene]

What's to scorch? Isn't oat 'milk' simply water that oats have soaked in? I can make it myself with steel cut oats or oat groats, water and cook it on the stove, then strain it. It has no milk fats, like milk from animals. I don't think the small amount of unsaturated fats in oat milk won't scorch like animal milks.

I would not bother with an ice bath or freezing in this case, especially when doing HP anyway.

Be prepared for it to thicken up the lye solution, though, because that is the nature of oats.

 

[cmzaha]

I make my oat milk the same as Earlene. There is nothing to scorch, but your lye water will darken. Actually what I do is take whatever liquid I am going to use add it and the oats in my bullet, I then pour the mix into my oils, without straining out the leftover sediment (Oats). I also use Oat Flour in my liquid and not bother with the bullet. This is keeping in mind I am using a 50/50 materbatched lye, so any additives are going into the balance of my required liquid. I really mix nothing but lye and water in my lye solution

 

[dibbles]

I've made and used oat milk. No problem not freezing or mixing in an ice bath. I did chill the oat milk overnight, but I don't think it is necessary. And yes, it will thicken the lye solution a lot.

 

[shunt2011]

Same here, no freezing or chilling. Just add my lye to the oat milk.

 

[bristles]

What's to scorch? Isn't oat 'milk' simply water that oats have soaked in? I can make it myself with steel cut oats or oat groats, water and cook it on the stove, then strain it. It has no milk fats, like milk from animals. I don't think the small amount of unsaturated fats in oat milk won't scorch like animal milks.

I would not bother with an ice bath or freezing in this case, especially when doing HP anyway.

Be prepared for it to thicken up the lye solution, though, because that is the nature of oats.

Thank you everyone.
And to Earlene, why do you use steel cut oats or groats when making oat milk? I am unsure what the best type of oat to use is when making my own oat milk/colloidal suspension.

 

[earlene]

It doesn't matter probably, that's what I like for oat products. I use them for cereal, so that's what I have. You could probably use plain rolled oats, too.

 

[penelopejane]

If you soak your oats for 20 mins then rinse them (throw away that water) then start to make your oat milk as you usually do it shouldn’t thicken in the lye.

It’s best to process your oats first rather than try and cut/blend them up once in the water as overmixing makes the milk slimy.

I thought this method was going to remove some of the milk but it doesn’t it just removes the starch I think.

 

[KiwiMoose]

I hope this isn't too necro-posting-ish, given that most of you are still active on the forum.
Having read all the older threads on oat milk, it appears that some people have had problems with it going gluggy once adding the lye. Others have recommended using 50/50 lye to water, and adding the rest iff the liquid content as oat milk to get around this.
Can I ask who adds their lye directly to the oat milk (as 100% liquid), and who doesn't?
And If i decide to use cartoned oat milk is there a problem with this ( given the other additives?)

 

[Marilyn Norgart]

curious as to what oatmilk lends to soap??

 

[dibbles]

I hope this isn't too necro-posting-ish, given that most of you are still active on the forum.
Having read all the older threads on oat milk, it appears that some people have had problems with it going gluggy once adding the lye. Others have recommended using 50/50 lye to water, and adding the rest iff the liquid content as oat milk to get around this.
Can I ask who adds their lye directly to the oat milk (as 100% liquid), and who doesn't?
And If i decide to use cartoned oat milk is there a problem with this ( given the other additives?)

I added the lye to the oat milk. It did get thick, but no problems soaping. I have always made my own oat milk, so I have no advice on the purchased.

 

[KiwiMoose]

I added the lye to the oat milk. It did get thick, but no problems soaping. I have always made my own oat milk, so I have no advice on the purchased.

Thanks Dibbles - I don't want to muck around with separating out the water and oat milk if i can help it. I prefer to make my own (it's so easy and much cheaper than buying it!) Do I need a cheesecloth or would coffee filters work? I have those already : -)
@Marilyn Norgart - I ma hoping it will help create a creamy-gentle lather that feels 'soft'.

 

[dibbles]

Thanks Dibbles - I don't want to muck around with separating out the water and oat milk if i can help it. I prefer to make my own (it's so easy and much cheaper than buying it!) Do I need a cheesecloth or would coffee filters work? I have those already : -)
@Marilyn Norgart - I ma hoping it will help create a creamy-gentle lather that feels 'soft'.

It’s been awhile since I last did it, but I think I did use cheesecloth. I think you could try pouring it through a sieve first and then through a coffee filter. Or one of the loosely woven kitchen towels. We call them flour sack towels here. Coffee filters can be hard to use, but maybe if you wet it first that would help.

 

[dibbles]

curious as to what oatmilk lends to soap??

I think I was looking to see what it would do for the lather and skin feel. It was nice soap and I made it a few times.

 

[KiwiMoose]

I bought some cheesecloth

 

[penelopejane]

Follow my instructions in post 8.
I use 50/50 lye water and oat milk.
I think it’s the starch that makes it gluggy not the lye. That’s why I rinse my oats first.
Then I soak them (1 cup oats to 3 cups of water) then put them in a food processor to mix them then strain with very fine cheap muslin cloth.

I also make colloidal oatmeal as best I can an add 1 tbsp ppo.
It makes a nice soap I think.

 

[dibbles]

PJ, I soaked my oats, rinsed them and then made my oat milk and it still got thick when I added the lye. I used all oat milk, so I wonder if that made a difference. Anyway @KiwiMoose don’t worry if you’re lye solution gets thick.

 

[KiwiMoose]

Just to clarify PJ - you recommend grinding your oats, soaking, washing off that water, then soaking and blending, and then straining off the oat milk?