i love a little cedarwood, red cedarleaf or balsam fir in my soaps. it has been my experience that a little goes a long way! i use about .5 oz ppo-more or less. most of the regular "pine" e/oils to me have a kind of pine-sol smell, especially if it is really strong. there are lots of f/oils out there that are xmas evergreen blends too. www.camdengrey.com has some nice f/o and e/o's, and they're fast.