olive vs sunfllower oil
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Hello Catikit,
I can tell you a little bit of my experience with the two oils in soaps: both oils are very valuable to the skin, but I would use the sunflower oil only up to 10% , because it sometimes makes quick rancid soap.
(My first soap was made of coconut oil to 50% and 50% sunflower oil, and it was stable over 2 years)
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Olive oil, however, is very stable and after a longer storage time (3-5 months)you have a beautiful, hard soap.
You can also use it in larger quantities.
Best regards
Petra
I can tell you a little bit of my experience with the two oils in soaps: both oils are very valuable to the skin, but I would use the sunflower oil only up to 10% , because it sometimes makes quick rancid soap.
(My first soap was made of coconut oil to 50% and 50% sunflower oil, and it was stable over 2 years)
)Olive oil, however, is very stable and after a longer storage time (3-5 months)you have a beautiful, hard soap.
You can also use it in larger quantities.
Best regards
Petra
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Sunflower will make a softer soap, but it's possible to make a soap which is mostly sunflower and reasonably hard.
High oleic sunflower makes a harder soap and also doesn't go rancid that quickly.
High oleic sunflower makes a harder soap and also doesn't go rancid that quickly.
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I wanted to ask ... what do you mean by heavy ? Do you mean sticky or oily, or something different ?
The high oleic is made from another type of sunflower seeds and it's labeled like that. It's used more for frying (but I didn't get a chance to try it first hand and I can't recommend you a brand or supplier).
By the way, safflower is considered similar to sunflower ... if you find one and not the other.
The high oleic is made from another type of sunflower seeds and it's labeled like that. It's used more for frying (but I didn't get a chance to try it first hand and I can't recommend you a brand or supplier).
By the way, safflower is considered similar to sunflower ... if you find one and not the other.
ah Safflower - yes i like the sound of that. I find Olive oil a bit greasy sometimes - as if its leaving a residue. Presummably i can get similar proporties as Olive with Sweet almond...? I was just looking for something cheaper than the almond.
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The greasy part may have to do a lot with the exact recipe aud superfat percentage.
Reading on the forum, many people complain that their soap is too cleansing or give them a squeaky clean feeling. Maybe that's exactly what you are looking for. Apparently increasing the percentage of coconut oil increases the cleansing factor.
Personally, I like the soaps to be slightly creamy. It's not the same as greasy, but rather a silky, moisturizing feeling.
Do you have any experience with a homemade soap which isn't "heavy" at all ?
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Residue can mean something else. In places with hard water, the calcium in water combines with the soap resulting in such residue (on the skin, but also bathtub, etc.), also called soap scum.
They said certain additives are required to fix that (EDTA).
Reading on the forum, many people complain that their soap is too cleansing or give them a squeaky clean feeling. Maybe that's exactly what you are looking for. Apparently increasing the percentage of coconut oil increases the cleansing factor.
Personally, I like the soaps to be slightly creamy. It's not the same as greasy, but rather a silky, moisturizing feeling.
Do you have any experience with a homemade soap which isn't "heavy" at all ?
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Residue can mean something else. In places with hard water, the calcium in water combines with the soap resulting in such residue (on the skin, but also bathtub, etc.), also called soap scum.
They said certain additives are required to fix that (EDTA).
You just said that you DON'T want similar properties as olive
ha ha - yeh i meant in term of oleic but without the heaviness
I made a great soap recently - replacing half the olive with sweet almond, minimising my coconut til the cleansing factor was 12, upping the palm and adding a little shea butter to help with hardness, as well as adding a good amount of castor for bubbles. Fab. Love it. A lovely hard white, but 'light' bar. Tried using it on my hair (i know - I've heard, or rather read, the CP for shampoo debate here, but i'm still trying) and it left a bit too much sticky residue on my hair. Lovely as a soap though. Just wondering if theres a cheaper alternative to sweet almond - hence the sunflower question. I dont suppose Safflower is particularly cheap though....
I made a great soap recently - replacing half the olive with sweet almond, minimising my coconut til the cleansing factor was 12, upping the palm and adding a little shea butter to help with hardness, as well as adding a good amount of castor for bubbles. Fab. Love it. A lovely hard white, but 'light' bar. Tried using it on my hair (i know - I've heard, or rather read, the CP for shampoo debate here, but i'm still trying) and it left a bit too much sticky residue on my hair. Lovely as a soap though. Just wondering if theres a cheaper alternative to sweet almond - hence the sunflower question. I dont suppose Safflower is particularly cheap though....
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