Thanks everyone. I wanted to do a column swirl and did`nt have a column and really did`nt know what a column was made of. SO...I took a coke bottle, cut it off fill it with small pebbles and spray foam to give it weight and to seal the bottle and WHAT DA YA NO.It works just GREAT. Don`t you think? I want to show you pictures of the soap boxes that I have built BUT I guess I`ll have to get Bama to post them for me. We`ll I`ve got to get busy and I don`t want to. I WANT TO MAKE SOAP. The other day I called my husband at work and he knew it was me so when he answered the phone he answered.... What do you want I`m making soap. He must have heard that before.......somewhere.