Mineral oil in CP?

[Obsidian]

I have some zinc oxide ointment I'd like to use up and I though about making soap with it. Its mineral oil based though and I'm not sure how that will work in CP.
Since mineral oil doesn't saponify, I would use it as the SF but will it mix into the batter ok? I figured I would melt it with my other oils.
What would be a good % to use? I was thinking 5% but I don't want overly greasy soap.

 

[The Efficacious Gentleman]

I was just thinking "wouldn't that leave rivers of oil in your soap?" but then, as any SF is also not saponified, we would see rivers of olive and other liquid oils if that was the case.

Not sure if using an ointment in a wash off product will do much, though.

 

[Obsidian]

I kinda though the same thing but I guess the only way to know for sure is just to do it. I don't expect it to really do anything for the same but I have doubts that any additive really do much once lye is done with them.

 

[cmzaha]

Only problem I see would be the fact that people using/purchasing handcrafted soap is that they do not want mineral oil or any petro products which is one reason for purchasing these type products

 

[Obsidian]

I realize that and I knew someone would come along and mention it. Every time I put something chemical in my soap I'm told that people won't want to buy it, I really don't need to hear it anymore.

 

[Lion Of Judah]

I was just thinking "wouldn't that leave rivers of oil in your soap?" but then, as any SF is also not saponified, we would see rivers of olive and other liquid oils if that was the case.

Not sure if using an ointment in a wash off product will do much, though.

[ this is just in my head thinking ]
mineral oil is different from regular oil used for soap making due to the fact it has no fatty acids and is made up of hydrocarbons.
so where you can SF with regular oil that will break down to the point of "assimilating" , mineral oil may not because it will not break down its form small enough .

 

[Obsidian]

Janeau, thats a perfect way of describing it! I had a similar though but wasn't sure how to explain it. I went ahead and made my batch, it soaped just fine, no weird reaction or anything. Added 1.5 oz of ointment which turned out to be 4.8%

I'll post pictures when its unmolded and let you all know if I end up with a greasy, icky mess. As long as its a usable soap, I'll use it even if it is a little greasy.

 

[Lion Of Judah]

Janeau, thats a perfect way of describing it! I had a similar though but wasn't sure how to explain it. I went ahead and made my batch, it soaped just fine, no weird reaction or anything. Added 1.5 oz of ointment which turned out to be 4.8%

I'll post pictures when its unmolded and let you all know if I end up with a greasy, icky mess. As long as its a usable soap, I'll use it even if it is a little greasy.

i have seen mineral oil discussed on this and other forums long time ago when i first started , and it has always a hot topic . but i'm glad that you went ahead and tried it out even for your own sake , that way you have a tangible feel for the pros and cons about "a soap being made with mineral oil in it . i'm looking forward to seeing the results .

 

[Obsidian]

Yeah, mineral oil is a hot topic but I have no issues using it. Sometimes my skin is just so dry that no amount of shea will help, a nice layer of mineral oil or vaseline and its good as new.
So far my soap look normal, no oily surface. Since I used two mold, I went ahead and gelled one to see if that makes a difference. I just hope it lathers

 

[Obsidian]

I made soap!! I used quite a bit of salt in the lye water so I was able to cut early. After I cleaned up the edges, I took the scrapes and made a soap ball, of course I tried to wash with it and it lathers really nice already.

It doesn't feel oily at all, in fact its almost dryish. Not sure if its from the high amount of zinc or the added salt. It definitely left a film but not a icky, sticky one. When washing, the skin felt squeaky clean but once dry, it almost feels like I have applied lotion. Its really weird but in a good way.
I really can't wait for it to cure so I can try it in the shower. I may have just solved my personal dry skin issue. Pictures come soon

 

[Obsidian]

I take it back. Now that its out of the molds and drying, the surface is getting slightly oily.

 

[Lion Of Judah]

the oil is making its way to the surface ?

 

[Obsidian]

I don't think thats what happening as its not any oilier this morning then it was last night. Maybe the oil just wasn't as noticeable until saponification was complete and the surface had dried out more.
If you take the hardest soap you have a rub a very light layer of oil on it, thats what these are like but I suspect the oily feel is throughout the bar, not just on the surface.

 

[Hazel]

I realize that and I knew someone would come along and mention it. Every time I put something chemical in my soap I'm told that people won't want to buy it, I really don't need to hear it anymore.

cmzaha was trying to be helpful and giving her opinion. If you knew someone would mention it, you could have been prepared with a more diplomatic reply. There wasn't any reason to be rude.

 

[Empress Kofoworola]

Yeah, mineral oil is a hot topic but I have no issues using it. Sometimes my skin is just so dry that no amount of shea will help, a nice layer of mineral oil or vaseline and its good as new.
So far my soap look normal, no oily surface. Since I used two mold, I went ahead and gelled one to see if that makes a difference. I just hope it lathers

i also have extreme dry skin no butter help but mineral oil and petroleum jelly help me a lot and i was thinking to melt soap soap and add some baby oil in it. with your positive result i will definitely try it

 

[Zany_in_CO]

i was thinking to melt soap soap and add some baby oil in it.

It's not likely that it will incorporate well enough because baby oil/mineral oil is unsaponifiable due to having no fatty acids available to create soap. Think about it. Have you ever heard of "mineral oil soap"?

You would be better off using a natural oil that is closest to mineral oil in its effect, i.e., castor oil, avocado oil or grapeseed oil. Also, beeswax is another good alternative as it creates a barrier on skin.

As it happens, Mineral Oil is an ingredient in over 50% of the top-selling lotions. If you want to keep your skin happy, Baby Oil/Mineral Oil/Zinc Ointment and the like are best used to make leave-on products like this recipe for HAND & BODY LOTION.

 

[Obsidian]

i also have extreme dry skin no butter help but mineral oil and petroleum jelly help me a lot and i was thinking to melt soap soap and add some baby oil in it. with your positive result i will definitely try it

It been so long ago that I don't remember the final outcome of this soap but since I didn't make it again, I can say that I didn't like it.

Honestly, you will be better off applying your baby oil to your skin immediately after a shower instead of trying to make a moisturizing soap