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Okay - you you start off in the beginner section, where no one who is selling should have to post too many questions. You state you have little experience, but are selling. That is a problem for a lot of us.

Then the main issue, the salt. I think that you took DeeAnna's comment wrongly. Someone might have said "you can't just throw any old thing in" which doesn't mean that you are randomly opening the cupboard and grabbing something. I try to reply in a way that assumes people mean things in a positive manner when possible, as we can't get the full gist from text on a screen. You called DeeAnna snarky without knowing if she was or not. You called me defensive when I was actually offended. It's not easy to get nuances via this medium so I try to give the benefit of the doubt.

Now, you consider your choice to be well researched and based on a solid premise. But it clearly isn't as it turns out it is wrong. I can read online that you should wash your hands before preparing food. I can also read that bleach is used for cleaning. From that, I could choose to use bleach on my hands and consider it well researched - although we know this is an extreme example as we know bleach is not correct to use there. But from reading two things online I could come to a false conclusion. If I then posted somewhere about it, people might well say "you can't just use a cleaning product willy-nilly"........

Even if I read that I should use bleach on my hands, I need to look at the source. One of the great things about a forum is that people can correct others. If I told you that you can use self raising flour instead of lye, plenty of people would post calling that out as utter bunkum. With many online sources you only have what one person has written, with little or no contra-advice.

There are a lot of people who benefit from the advice on this forum. Newbies and experienced soapers alike. People DO want to help, but I doubt that they will if they are unfairly attacked and/or advice is constantly ignored or thrown back in their faces and things of this nature.

No one here is paid to help others, it's done for the love of soaping and when there is someone who doesn't want help or wants it only in a certain way, then there are plenty of other ways that people can spend their time
 
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Ha! You know, "Susie", I mentioned how douchy y'all were to me on here to other soapers, new and experienced (which, btw, almost every single person said they feel like they are learning new things everyday. So, when exactly does one go from newbie to experienced? According to the link above, you have to meet all these criteria, PLUS be in it for 12 consecutive months. I hate to say it, but I would never, EVER by soap, not matter how good, from a ****** bag.), and found a plethora or folks that refuse to even come here anymore because of how they were treated by folks like you. As you said, my site is not close to being done. I have big dreams, girly, BIG. I don't expect to become a super star, but who is to say I can't strive to be one? THAT is MY goal. Strive to be the best that I can. Learn all that I can about what makes me happy. Don't be afraid to ask questions. Take positive and negative, "constructive" criticism like a real craftsperson, and learn from it.
It really sucks that with the WEALTH of information on here, it is obvious that it is a "cool kids only club", and I am not considered cool enough. This isn't high school, folks. Well, here's to ya!


Not quite. You make soap to make money. The advice you want or need can be found here ... for free.

In most industries, if you need some specific manufacturing information you'd have to pay for it. Or you'd have to spend many hours in libraries to perform research.

Have you considered how many requests are fielded here by people who make soap for money but aren't very experienced or have a clear understanding of the foundational science?

Regards-
Dave
 
Sorry, I have to agree with the others. You came on here in the beginners section asking beginner questions. It also sounds like you are using someone else's recipes and haven't done enough research.

There is no "cool kids club" here at all. We are a group of soapmaker's who like myself have put in months and months, hours and hours into research on the process, testing and making our own recipes and tweaking for a long time to put out a quality product.

Then, there are those who unfortunately start making soap and think it's okay to sell after a couple/few months without having a clue as to how their product will be in 3 month or6 months little lone 12 months.

These are the folks who if they don't get the answer they want they get an attitude and then get rude when people are just stating the facts.

If you have access to so many new/advanced soap makers then perhaps you may want to get your information from them since you don't seem to like the answers you are getting here.

Yes, we all learn new things but at least we have researched have basic knowledge and experience. Which from your post doesn't seem you have. Sorry, no insult meant just truths.

Also, calling posters here rude names is not acceptable behavior here violation of the forum rules. You are insulting those who are most helpful and knowledgeable.

So, with that being said either the name calling stops or it will be locked.
 
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I have found that the problem doesn't lie in the experienced forum members, it lies in the newcomers that ask for help, don't like the advice they are given, then start blaming everyone else and claiming they are bullied. You say "take positive and negative, constructive criticism like a real crafts-person, and learn from it", but the first time you're given advice, you make derogatory remarks to the most helpful, experienced members on the forum. If you took any remarks as condescending, then maybe you should try to identify what issues you have regarding being told that maybe you could have made a better decision. Frankly, your responses are far more disrespectful than anything else I've read on this thread and that's saying something (as I've seen TEG get incredibly frustrated with responses similar to yours, no disrespect, Gent.)
 
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None taken - I've had a good supply of tea on hand to prevent an overload of frustration :D

Tea? I can't fathom why someone would use that swill for frustrations. Hot chocolate is the real answer. ;)

(Teasing! I know you folks over there love your tea. Heck, most of my friends prefer tea too. And not to ignore folks on this side of the pond... I can't stand coffee either!)
 
Tea? I can't fathom why someone would use that swill for frustrations. Hot chocolate is the real answer. ;)

Actually (if I may weigh in), why not use both? What I've found to be even better than just hot chocolate or just tea alone is hot chocolate mixed with masala chai (spiced tea). The best of both worlds! You can't get much better than that!

Edited to add: Oh- masala chai in coffee is lovely, too!


IrishLass :)
 
<...poking my head out of the rubble and peering about warily...>

Does anybody have a recipe for making masala chai spice mix from scratch? I've tried to do this, but it didn't turn out well. I ended up going back to the store bought stuff, but I'd love to be able to concoct my own.
 
I cheated and used some home dried ginger, it was still nommy. I like to set it up the night before with the spices in cold water. Works a treat.
 
I'm the odd one out, can't bear chai. Maybe it's because I'm allergic to whey protein so it has to be made with weird fake milk. Give me a nice cup of smoky Russian caravan tea any day.
 
I don't care for chai made with milk, either. That's why I am interested in the "tea" portion only, and if I can find those spices here, I am going to make some of it.
 
Oh I found a great recipe last week for masala chai, that I really like. Check this out: http://yummysupper.blogspot.com/2011/02/masala-chai-latte.html

I have a similar recipe ... I like the idea of fresh ginger, though (not an ingredient in my recipe). I also use some cloves.

I don't use water but put the spices and tea directly into the milk, then heat.

Good stuff, thanks for sharing the recipe!

-Dave

PS: Anyone have a good recipe for hot chocolate/cocoa?

:)
 
I don't care for chai made with milk, either. That's why I am interested in the "tea" portion only, and if I can find those spices here, I am going to make some of it.

Look for any Indian grocery Susie, that's the only place you are certain to get all the spices u need, unless you look for online sources ofcourse.
When chai is made with milk in India, milk goes in the pot with everything else from the beginning. A lot of simmering is involved so that all the flavors are well blended. Lot of the water evaporates in the process leaving a rich milk taste. Sugar and milk cut the bitterness of long brewed tea leaves. Adding milk or tea towards the end is just not the same thing. Oh, I miss the chai since I became vegan
I do the black version now, where I simmer the water with all the spices, add tea leaves after turning of the heat. Let it brew for 2 min, strain everything and sweeten to taste. It tastes fine but not at the same level of chai. If u do try this, let me know how you liked it.
 
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