Liquid Soap Colorant & Scent ?

[BettyW]

I have made some liquid soap with the following …..

Tahitian Vanilla FO
Orange EO
Red Gel Colorant
Yellow Liquid Colorant

When I poured the liquid soap into the container then next day the colorant & scent has separated at the bottom. I have not used the Poly 20 or 80. Is there anything else I could use to fix this separation?

 

[Zany_in_CO]

I have not used the Poly 20 or 80. Is there anything else I could use to fix this separation?

Poly 20 or 80 is all there is to prevent separation as far as I know. It's not too late to add it.
Elements Bath & Body in Pueblo, CO carries it. Good company to do business with. I usually get my order the next day or two if I order early in the day.
TIP: It's best to warm the LS to 140°F or so when adding scent.

I'm wondering about your Vanilla EO??? If you don't mind my asking, where did you purchase it?
I'm also wondering about the Red Gel Colorant. I've never had a colorant separate. Hmmm.

 

[AliOop]

I was wondering the same thing. I see so-called "vanilla EO" for sale on Amazon all the time, but there is no such thing, to my knowledge. Wouldn't it be a vanilla absolute at best?

 

[BettyW]

There is no way to add it after I mix the EO & colorants?

 

[BettyW]

It is Tahitian Vanilla Frager

Poly 20 or 80 is all there is to prevent separation as far as I know. It's not too late to add it.
Elements Bath & Body in Pueblo, CO carries it. Good company to do business with. I usually get my order the next day or two if I order early in the day.
TIP: It's best to warm the LS to 140°F or so when adding scent.

I'm wondering about your Vanilla EO??? If you don't mind my asking, where did you purchase it?
I'm also wondering about the Red Gel Colorant. I've never had a colorant separate. Hmmm.

Tahitian Vanilla FO (Mile High Soap)
Red Colorant Gel (Soap Colorant-Hobby Lobby)
Yellow Colorant Soap Colorant-Hobby Lobby)

 

[AliOop]

Sorry, I thought you had vanilla EO, not FO. Per @Zany_in_CO yes, you can add the poly now.

 

[BettyW]

Sorry, I thought you had vanilla EO, not FO. Per @Zany_in_CO yes, you can add the poly now.

I corrected it to say ....
Tahitian Vanilla FO

It also has 5 Fold Orange EO.

 

[AliOop]

Bet it smells great!

 

[BettyW]

Bet it smells great!

I really like the smell.

 

[Zany_in_CO]

Tahitian Vanilla FO (Mile High Soap)
Red Colorant Gel (Soap Colorant-Hobby Lobby)
Yellow Colorant Soap Colorant-Hobby Lobby)

Thanks for the additional information. For the colorants, I would take the separated LS to Hobby Lobby and show them what happened. My guess is, their soap colorants are made for Melt & Pour soap, not for lye-based bar soap or LS, and that's why they separated out. Not sure. But your supplier should know. If you don't want to use food coloring to color your LS, I believe Elements Bath & Body has liquid colorants for liquid soap.

As for the FO/EO combo, add 3-4 times solubizer (poly 20 or 80) to 1 part fragrance. Stir gently for one full minute and then allow to rest for at least an hour before deciding to add more. In the future, add the amount of solubizer to a bit of water; stir to fully incoporate; add EO/FO; stir. Allow to rest to be sure no oil rises to the top.

ETA:

... the colorant & scent has separated at the bottom.

It just occurred to me that only the colorant settled to the bottom because when FOs & EOs separate out, they rise to the top. So, maybe it would be best to siphon out the LS with a baster or gravy boat before doing anything else. The scent may be just fine. Not all fragrances require the addition of a solubizer. More often than not, you don't need it.

HTH (Hope This Helps!)

 

[DeeAnna]

"...For the colorants, I would take the separated LS to Hobby Lobby and show them what happened...."

I would imagine the vast majority of Hobby Lobby sales people would not have a clue about how to respond to an inquiry like this. I mean, hey, it's not like many of them are going to be knowledgeable soap makers. Their website is probably a more useful resource.

Are either of these the colorant(s) you used? If so, they're labeled for use only in M&P.

https://www.hobbylobby.com/Crafts-H...,-Yellow-&-Red-Glycerin-Soap-Color/p/80826573
https://www.hobbylobby.com/Crafts-Hobbies/Candle-Soap-Making/Soap-Making-Supplies/Soap-Dye/p/HC50400

 

[BettyW]

"...For the colorants, I would take the separated LS to Hobby Lobby and show them what happened...."

I would imagine the vast majority of Hobby Lobby sales people would not have a clue about how to respond to an inquiry like this. I mean, hey, it's not like many of them are going to be knowledgeable soap makers. Their website is probably a more useful resource.

Are either of these the colorant(s) you used? If so, they're labeled for use only in M&P.

https://www.hobbylobby.com/Crafts-H...,-Yellow-&-Red-Glycerin-Soap-Color/p/80826573
https://www.hobbylobby.com/Crafts-Hobbies/Candle-Soap-Making/Soap-Making-Supplies/Soap-Dye/p/HC50400

I will pull out cardboard they were in.

 

[BettyW]

I will pull out cardboard they were in.

Cardboard just says Colorant for Soap.

 

[Zany_in_CO]

Did you read the descriptions in @DeeAnna 's post #11? Both describe the colorants for "your melt and pour soap".

 

[BettyW]

Did you read the descriptions in @DeeAnna 's post #11? Both describe the colorants for "your melt and pour soap".

Yes

 

[Zany_in_CO]

Yes

So, what do you think? Were your colorants intended for MP or not? What are you planning on doing next?

 

[BettyW]

"...For the colorants, I would take the separated LS to Hobby Lobby and show them what happened...."

I would imagine the vast majority of Hobby Lobby sales people would not have a clue about how to respond to an inquiry like this. I mean, hey, it's not like many of them are going to be knowledgeable soap makers. Their website is probably a more useful resource.

Are either of these the colorant(s) you used? If so, they're labeled for use only in M&P.

https://www.hobbylobby.com/Crafts-H...,-Yellow-&-Red-Glycerin-Soap-Color/p/80826573
https://www.hobbylobby.com/Crafts-Hobbies/Candle-Soap-Making/Soap-Making-Supplies/Soap-Dye/p/HC50400

Had to go dig this out of trash.

 

[BettyW]

So, what do you think? Were your colorants intended for MP or not? What are you planning on doing next?

I am guessing it was for melt & pour which I didn't realize it made a difference.

 

[BettyW]

I am guessing it was for melt & pour which I didn't realize it made a difference.

This liquid soap is for our family.

 

[BettyW]

Here is picture of colorant at bottom of liquid soap.
I have order in Poly 80 to see if it helps.