Hibiscus

[Wessam]

I was trying to simmer dried hibiscus leaves in olive oil for more than an hournow but so far i did not get any color!!! how can i color my soap using hibiscus??

 

[The Efficacious Gentleman]

Or is the question just "CAN I add colour to my soap using hibiscus?"?

That, I do not know

 

[Wessam]

Or is the question just "CAN I add colour to my soap using hibiscus?"?

That, I do not know

Some people and ites say hibisuccs is used to add purple color... but i have no clue how to use it correctly! last time i used hibiscus tea for the lye solution but it turned brown. i onderwhich is the correct way to use hibisucs to get my soap colored

 

[hmlove1218]

Hibiscus turns brown in CP and HP because of the high alkalinity. I tried to use hibiscus flower powder in one of my first soaps

 

[shunt2011]

Almost all botanicals will turn brown in soap.

 

[Dorymae]

Some things can not be infused in oil. For those you need to infuse them in water. Try boiling your hibiscus in water, you will get the color, however I can't say the color in finished soap as I've never used it.

 

[Ellacho]

Other than calendula/marigold petals, almost all botanicals will turn brown in soap, even in MP.

 

[Lion Of Judah]

i make hibiscus soap on a regular and will say that you will not get that "hibiscus" color, you will get a nice "natural" looking soap if you love natural. lye will turn the color grass green and swiftly almost to a coffee black then relax to a mauve type brown.
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[Wessam]

Some things can not be infused in oil. For those you need to infuse them in water. Try boiling your hibiscus in water, you will get the color, however I can't say the color in finished soap as I've never used it.

I did so once before and it turned brown as usual!

 

[Wessam]

so finally i strained as much as i can from the hibiscus and get it out of the oil (some fine particles remained... i did not care then :-? ) and then i added carrot puree instead..... :cry: :cry:

 

[sososo]

Other than calendula/marigold petals, almost all botanicals will turn brown in soap, even in MP.

Can we consider paprika beeing a botanical? If so, we have another example of botanical which is not turning brown in soap.

 

[shunt2011]

I don't consider paprika a botanical it's a spice. At least that's my thought.

 

[biarine]

Try if your water is 350 grams then use 250grams water and 100grams of hibiscus tea and add the tea after light trace, I am not if the colour will still turn brown but I think it worth of try.

 

[Ellacho]

Can we consider paprika beeing a botanical? If so, we have another example of botanical which is not turning brown in soap.

I agree with Shunt. Paprika is from the pepper family and it is a spice .

 

[MagicalMysterySoap]

What about parsley? I get a beautiful green from the dried kind that I get at the Mexican supermarket (it is the brightest green that I have ever seen)

I have tried hibiscus and it does not work. I ground it up into a powder and had a bunch of black specs in my soap

 

[Wessam]

What about parsley? I get a beautiful green from the dried kind that I get at the Mexican supermarket (it is the brightest green that I have ever seen)

I have tried hibiscus and it does not work. I ground it up into a powder and had a bunch of black specs in my soap

Thanx for the advice... can you tell me which is the best way to use parsley? oils are expensive and don't want to keep losing in try and errors

 

[Wessam]

Try if your water is 350 grams then use 250grams water and 100grams of hibiscus tea and add the tea after light trace, I am not if the colour will still turn brown but I think it worth of try.

can anyone confirm if this would work or not? Thanx

 

[The Efficacious Gentleman]

Adding at trace will only help keep some of the heat away - but obviously any heat from the saponification will still affect it. You are adding the tea to the lye anyway - a bit more spread out, but both will be distributed through out the batter so lye and tea will be reacting no matter what you do.

 

[Wessam]

Adding at trace will only help keep some of the heat away - but obviously any heat from the saponification will still affect it. You are adding the tea to the lye anyway - a bit more spread out, but both will be distributed through out the batter so lye and tea will be reacting no matter what you do.

So to cut short for myself only natural colorants foor CP are:
coco milk = white
papricak = Orange
Carrot = yellow !
(indigo is not that much available in my country)

 

[kchaystack]

So to cut short for myself only natural colorants foor CP are:
coco milk = white
papricak = Orange
Carrot = yellow !
(indigo is not that much available in my country)

Not by a long shot:

http://bit.ly/1z8splJ

Here is a comparison of using dried dandilion greens to a green oxide:

http://youtu.be/l9IHRkv0-f4

And here is one on other natural colorants:

http://youtu.be/WFTm7Ynyatw

Also, activated charcoal is often used for grey and black.