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hello guys im new here and i just tryed to make my first batch of goats milk soap and done it by a recipe of what i got on the net but it didnt tell me you have to heat up the oils and lye i was thinking the lye heats up by it self and was waiting and waiting but it stayed at 57f when i checked it but i still added the oils and now its hard but i dont know if it will still work or not can yous please help me thanks heaps :)
 
I cannot figure out just what you have done.

Are you doing CP? Then you would want to mix the lye with water - that will heat up. Let this cool. While it's cooling, set up your oils. If you are using solid oils or butters, melt them and mix them with the rest of the oils then let the whole thing cool also). It works best if both the lye water and the oils mixture have cooled to about 100F - 110F before combining the lye water with the oils.

I see you are using milk, but I suggest you start with water. But if you are going to use the milk instead, simply read "milk" where I wrote "water" above.
 
i used milk in a recipe the other day and will probably never do so again! the most disgusting smell came form that! lol. i hope yours turns out ok
 
carebear said:
I cannot figure out just what you have done.

Are you doing CP? Then you would want to mix the lye with water - that will heat up. Let this cool. While it's cooling, set up your oils. If you are using solid oils or butters, melt them and mix them with the rest of the oils then let the whole thing cool also). It works best if both the lye water and the oils mixture have cooled to about 100F - 110F before combining the lye water with the oils.

I see you are using milk, but I suggest you start with water. But if you are going to use the milk instead, simply read "milk" where I wrote "water" above.
Yes carebear i had added milk but it didnt heat well only to 57-59f then i had added my oils which where room temp!!! i wana know is that still ok i had used frozen milk mashed up!!!! what i am asking is i dont heat the lye at all on the stove?? cause i red that somewhere but didnt do it and i was thinking maybe i was ment to ?? but now i look at the soap and there is no yukky smell just nice peppermint smell and like a yellow in colour do you think its right ? and when can i start to cut the soap up ?
 
i never heat up the lye. it is already 200+ degrees. i think your soap will be fine and that you can cut it up once it has completely cooled. 24-48 hours for CP if i am not mistaken.
 
It sounds like you have a great desire to make soap, but haven't been taught how and maybe haven't had enough exposure to good tutorials on soapmaking.

I know not everyone needs to take a class, but if you just go to YouTube and type in cold process soapmaking you will find good video tutorials to help you learn the process.

I am by no means skilled at this craft, but am learning, just like you. The people in this forum are very informative and will help you understand.
 
jarvan said:
It sounds like you have a great desire to make soap, but haven't been taught how and maybe haven't had enough exposure to good tutorials on soapmaking.

I know not everyone needs to take a class, but if you just go to YouTube and type in cold process soapmaking you will find good video tutorials to help you learn the process.

I am by no means skilled at this craft, but am learning, just like you. The people in this forum are very informative and will help you understand.
Hello i did look on there and had a sheet i copyed off a site but i just had a few questions but cant seem to get em answered :( yes people on here are very help full thanks to all :D still havent got my answers answered yet :(
 
HI, Hope this answers some of your questions:
This is what you need to do, this is the order I do it in.
Weigh your lye.
Weigh your liquic (start with water it's much easier)
Mix your lye into your water, not the water in to the lye.
Stir until the lye is all dissolved, then check every now and again to make sure it's dissolved, it should be clear by the end.
Weigh out your oils
Melt your solid oils
Pour your liquid oils into the melted solid oils. This will help your oils cool down.
Walk away for 10 mins or so.
Check your temps, either with a thermomenter, or just with your hand on the outside of the lye container, and the oils.
Just warm to the touch is fine, hot to touch walk away for a few more mintues.
Pour your lye water into the oils, stir, whisk, stickblend what ever you need to do to get trace. This is when you can dribble a little bit on the top of the mix and it stays for a second before sinking back in.
Pour into your mould.
Insulate/or fridge/freeze to prevent gel. But that's a whole 'nother topic.

This is pretty much the basic process, of course there are other steps for adding colour, fragrance, botanicals, etc, but for the time being I think you just need to get the hang of the basic process.

I hope this has helped some.
 
ChrissyB said:
HI, Hope this answers some of your questions:
This is what you need to do, this is the order I do it in.
Weigh your lye.
Weigh your liquic (start with water it's much easier)
Mix your lye into your water, not the water in to the lye.
Stir until the lye is all dissolved, then check every now and again to make sure it's dissolved, it should be clear by the end.
Weigh out your oils
Melt your solid oils
Pour your liquid oils into the melted solid oils. This will help your oils cool down.
Walk away for 10 mins or so.
Check your temps, either with a thermomenter, or just with your hand on the outside of the lye container, and the oils.
Just warm to the touch is fine, hot to touch walk away for a few more mintues.
Pour your lye water into the oils, stir, whisk, stickblend what ever you need to do to get trace. This is when you can dribble a little bit on the top of the mix and it stays for a second before sinking back in.
Pour into your mould.
Insulate/or fridge/freeze to prevent gel. But that's a whole 'nother topic.

This is pretty much the basic process, of course there are other steps for adding colour, fragrance, botanicals, etc, but for the time being I think you just need to get the hang of the basic process.

I hope this has helped some.
Thank you so much chrissy i done all what you said :) im happy lol i done it with goats milk cause i was buying it all the time for my baby and us so i was thinking hmmm i should try and make it myself so now i have to wait to tomorrow to cut it and 4 weeks to use it is that right?
 
Okay glad that I could be of help, and all that typing wasn't for nothing!!
Yes, once your soap has cooled and is about as firm as cheese, you can cut it. Put it up in a cupboard or something like that, and you can use it in four weeks. That's the hardest part!
Some people use their soap after two or three weeks, but in my opinion, at four weeks it is perfect, and it only gets better after that. Some soaps take a little longer to cure, like a true Castille (100% Olive Oil), but it's all worth it in a while. If you only made one batch a week, in four weeks you will have new soap every week!!
Also with the goats milk, or with any milk for that matter, there are a couple of ways you can do it.
If for example, you wanted to use goats milk as 100% of your liquids, you would freeze the gm, in ice cube trays I find the easiest. Weigh it first, then freeze it. Then add the lye to the frozen gm a little at a time, making sure it's dissolved before you add more. You could also set the jug that you are mixing your lye and gm in an ice bath, this will ensure that you don't burn your gm as the lye heats it up. That's what causes that god awful smell. Also, when all the lye has dissolved in the gm, it will start to thicken. That is the lye saponifying with the fats that are already present in the milk.
Same principle for coconut milk, cow milk, what ever you are using.
OR
There is a much easier way of using milk in your soap. Say for example the recipe calls for 600gm of liquid, 350 lye. You would dissolve your 350gm of lye in 350gm of water, then weigh out 250gm (the remaining after you subtract the 350gm from 600gm) of goat milk, coconut milk, whatever, and just add that extra 250gm at trace. Simple, no freezing, no scorching, no smelly milk, and you've still incorporated that creamy goodness into your soap.
Depending on what oils you have used in your recipe, I find that adding coconut milk at trace like this makes for a really nice white creamy soap.
So can't wait to see how it all goes when you cut this batch, what's in mind for the next?
Be careful, it's very very addictive!!
 
ilovebeaniekids said:
hello guys im new here and i just tryed to make my first batch of goats milk soap and done it by a recipe of what i got on the net but it didnt tell me you have to heat up the oils and lye i was thinking the lye heats up by it self and was waiting and waiting but it stayed at 57f when i checked it but i still added the oils and now its hard but i dont know if it will still work or not can yous please help me thanks heaps :)

Do you still have the container the lye came in? Reading through this thread makes me think that maybe there was something wrong with your lye.
 
When you mix your lye into your water, it should instantly heat up to 180° or more. If it doesn't, there's something wrong with your lye.
 
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