I found a bar of soap that i made a yr ago, love the smell, all i wrote in my notes, was b, sugar, not who the supplier was! I was using ng and bram back then and had started using peak, none of them have a straight b sugar, was it warm van sugar??? it sure doesnt smell like it though, SO sad. I may never know, longtime soapers, if i sent you a piece would you know, prob not. sigh.