FOs - Scent Memory Fragrance

[Carly B]

I think I remember reading that the usage rate had changed with the new IFRA guidelines, and she was redoing labels. Maybe your bottle had an old label. I’d trust the website as I know she has everything updated there. Also, I think Arugula is being reformulated to increase the usage rate. I was interested in that one, but passed because of the low usage rate. It sounds like something I would like.

I typed an edit which for some reason didn't show up. I asked her about Arugula, and as long as I was asking stuff, I asked about why IFRA for soap was often less than IFRA for lotion. She responded almost immediately, which was impressive. This is what she said:

Unfortunately with the new IFRA 50th amendment the usage rate went WAY DOWN on arugula. I would use the website IFRA sheet as the most current information! For this reason I am actually removing the % off bottles as I don't want old information out there. I'm sorry for such a drastic change in usage rate, it's a bummer.

And your guess is as good as mine on the wash off/leave on. honestly, IFRA astounds me sometimes with how counterintuitive it can be. i know that isn't particularly helpful, and I'm sure there are very specific scientific explanations, but they don't make a lot of sense to lay-people.

I think I remember reading that the usage rate had changed with the new IFRA guidelines, and she was redoing labels. Maybe your bottle had an old label. I’d trust the website as I know she has everything updated there. Also, I think Arugula is being reformulated to increase the usage rate. I was interested in that one, but passed because of the low usage rate. It sounds like something I would like.

Arugula to me smells similar to FB's Bob's Flower Market, minus the carnation. It must be my nose, tho. Hubby, who is generally impressed with Scent Memory Fragrances, likes Bob's Flower Market but isn't a fan of Arugula. So to each his own nose, I guess......I ended up getting a lot of "green" scents this time--Arugula, Mossy Forest Path, Leaves of Green, Fertile Valley.

What did you think of The Coming Storm? I got a 30 ml of that, and at first sniff it reminds me of the Earth fragrance I got years and years ago from MMS.

 

[dibbles]

Arugula to me smells similar to FB's Bob's Flower Market, minus the carnation. It must be my nose, tho. Hubby, who is generally impressed with Scent Memory Fragrances, likes Bob's Flower Market but isn't a fan of Arugula. So to each his own nose, I guess......I ended up getting a lot of "green" scents this time--Arugula, Mossy Forest Path, Leaves of Green, Fertile Valley.

What did you think of The Coming Storm? I got a 30 ml of that, and at first sniff it reminds me of the Earth fragrance I got years and years ago from MMS.

I haven’t placed another order yet, so I haven’t smelled The Coming Storm. I’ve had that Earth fragrance but it’s been so long I can’t remember what I thought of it. I think I ended up using it for reed diffusers, so maybe didn’t love it in soap.

 

[Zany_in_CO]

WASH OFF PRODUCTS...1.7
PERFUME...7.03
BODY LOTION...3.33

However, on the bottle of Arugula, it says SOAP: 26.67% and LOTION: 10.37% Quite a difference.

To me, the higher numbers represent the IFRA maximum use vs. the lower numbers which represent the recommended usage rates of their product for whatever you're making. It certainly is confusing but that's what I see on most popular vendor sites these days.

 

[Sandiebrown65]

I soaped with it. I made a wine Castile soap with Merlot. I can’t honestly say if it discolored because the wine had it a lovely burgundy. It may have darkened some over time.

Sorry, a bit off topic here with this question. If it is not appropriate to ask this question here then please let me know and I will post it separately onto the forum.
Did you exchange all of your water with the wine? Did you do this as a hot process soap?

I am having a lot of trouble with my batter turning instantly solid with my wine soap. I do a full water exchange for the wine but always end up having to HP to get it to work. It also looks extremely rustic!
Photo of my recipe attached

 

[Zany_in_CO]

Sorry, a bit off topic here with this question.

Normally, "off topic" hijacks are tolerated, no worries. But it would be better to post your question in the Recipe Feedback Forum to reach a wider audience who can offer their wisdom and experience as well.

 

[AliOop]

Sorry, a bit off topic here with this question. If it is not appropriate to ask this question here then please let me know and I will post it separately onto the forum.
Did you exchange all of your water with the wine? Did you do this as a hot process soap?

I am having a lot of trouble with my batter turning instantly solid with my wine soap. I do a full water exchange for the wine but always end up having to HP to get it to work. It also looks extremely rustic!
Photo of my recipe attached

Are you boiling off the alcohol first? If not, that’s what is making your soap seize.

 

[Virgogoddess]

I bought a second round of fragrance as well! I’m waiting for the shipment. Right now I have an obsession….it’s rose peppered plum. I know, I’m late to the party but omg, I can’t stop smelling it!! I’ve been making solid perfumes with my favorites and I’m definitely going to soap this next week along with Delina and Bibliothec! Also made lotion bars with Baccarat Rouge and headed to a show today, we shall see how they do!

 

[Zany_in_CO]

@Future_Ghost
@TashaBird
@Mobjack Bay
@Vicki C
@contrinokathy
@dibbles
@Carly B
@Laura@huntress moon
@Virgogoddess
@Milk Machine

For future reference, and easy access, I’m wondering if we could post reviews/results like this one right on the Scent Memory Fragrance site:

https://www.soapmakingforum.com/threads/fos-scent-memory-fragrance.88097/page-4#post-950203
Whatcha all think? Good idea? "yes" Or not? "not"

 

[dibbles]

@Zany_in_CO speaking only for myself, I like having this discussion here. It is a discussion, not a review. I have only made very small test batches with these FOs. I think a review on a website should include behavior in CP, discoloration and fragrance strength when first made and how well it sticks at least one month after curing (and really - 6 months is more helpful). I can't post a review on any of these things until I make a normal sized batch. In the meantime, I find this discussion of fragrance impressions and behavior/discoloration very helpful here.

 

[Zany_in_CO]

@dibbles Thank you for your input. Well said. I totally agree but I was thinking long term... like a year from now... it would be nice to access results on the site without having to slog through 36 pages or so -- typical of the most popular threads like ZNSC that get out of hand with hijacks and such. KWIM?

 

[Carly B]

But, but, didn't you move what I had posted in the other thread over here?

No matter. Whatever you want is fine by me. I'm easy that way. I know you didn't ask,
but what I think I would find the most helpful is to have a main section called Vendors or
Vendor Discussions or some such thing, and then have a subsection for each vendor, so
we can chat about all things regarding that vendor--what we bought, what we like, customer
service, quality, etc. Mods would add the initial Vendor post, and new vendors could be added
by requesting that from the mods, like with the Fragrance Oil review spreadsheet.

I have nowhere near as much experience in this as you do, but I have often thought "I wish there was a dedicated thread about Nurture, or WSP, or Scent Memory or whatever."

Just my thoughts.

 

[Zany_in_CO]

But, but, didn't you move what I had posted in the other thread over here?

Yes I did! But that was just a lucky grab!

I share your frustration. There is no "dedicated thread" for each vendor. I wish there were!!! I'm going to appeal to ADMIN/MODS to make this one, but it's not likely to happen. There is a tradition of allowing hijacks -- See Post #84, 85, 86 -- so there's not much hope for keeping it "clean".

If you agree with me, you can use the Report button to ask that they move #84 & 86 to a new thread and delete my post #85. I have done that, but it still remains.

Just my thoughts.

Your thoughts are welcome and well said. No matter anyone else's level of experience, we are all entitled to an opinion. No one person, certainly not me, has all the answers Thank you for weighing in. I truly appreciate it.

 

[Virgogoddess]

@Future_Ghost
@TashaBird
@Mobjack Bay
@Vicki C
@contrinokathy
@dibbles
@Carly B
@Laura@huntress moon
@Virgogoddess
@Milk Machine

For future reference, and easy access, I’m wondering if we could post reviews/results like this one right on the Scent Memory Fragrance site:

https://www.soapmakingforum.com/threads/fos-scent-memory-fragrance.88097/page-4#post-950203
Whatcha all think? Good idea? "yes" Or not? "not"

They have a FB page where there’s lots of discussion but here it’s more personal.

 

[Carly B]

They have a FB page where there’s lots of discussion but here it’s more personal.

I don't and have never done FB or any of the other social media sites. This forum is about as social as I get..

 

[Zany_in_CO]

I don't and have never done FB or any of the other social media sites. This forum is about as social as I get..

DITTO.

 

[Mobjack Bay]

I prefer to keep my initial discussion contributions here. I slogged through a lot of non-soapy info on the SM FB page a week or two ago.

It’s easy enough to search in a particular thread using the search tool.

 

[Virgogoddess]

DITTO.

You would be famous on Saponification Nation!

 

[Zany_in_CO]

It’s easy enough to search in a particular thread using the search tool.

??? Clueless here. How do you do that?

 

[Prysm]

Okay everyone, let's all get back on the fragrance topic.

A couple of points.
1. Only mods can move a post or thread.
2. Mods have a badge under their name and avatar that shows them as a moderator.
3. Some members really try to be helpful.
4. Other members see things differently and try to be helpful.
5. When you see #3 and #4, check out each and decide for yourself which is best for you.
6. It is okay to keep some off topic here, not everything needs to be a separate thread.
7. But a sub topic in a thread, could make a very informative good topic for it's own thread.

Good luck on proceeding with the discussion.

 

[Prysm]

I'm not good on this topic, but I love a mint/eucalyptus scent, or a mild roses.
I really don't like lavender.

And from the bits of this thread I've seen, it seems that various vendors have various qualities of fragrance.