Doggie Soap (cold processed)

[cappykat]

I made the following dog soap recipe. I did my research and found this recipe online. I researched safe essential oils for dogs and found conflicting information. I did seem to get a consensus on Cedarwood essential oil. I plan to sell this so would like input from other soapers. It called for Tallow, Cocoa butter or Kokum butter but I substituted Shea. Does anyone see any problems with this recipe?

Coconut Oil - 22.50%
Shea Butter - 15%
Olive Oil - 45%
Neem Seed Oil - 2.50%
Castor Oil - 15%

I added 2.5 tsp of sodium lactate, 2 Tbsp collodial oatmeal, and 1% (.32oz) of Cedarwood EO.

 

[KiwiMoose]

Awww - I just saw this. How did it turn out? Yes EOs for dogs - there is SO MUCH conflicting information. I put cedarwood in mine too - as this one seemed to be OK no matter where I searched. But hubby recently bought a 'specialist' doggie shampoo for one of our bubs who has skin issues and it has cinnamon EO in it! Whaaaat!? It is marketed on the product as being really good for dog's skin. I said he should have asked me first....

 

[lgranger]

I made the following dog soap recipe. I did my research and found this recipe online. I researched safe essential oils for dogs and found conflicting information. I did seem to get a consensus on Cedarwood essential oil. I plan to sell this so would like input from other soapers. It called for Tallow, Cocoa butter or Kokum butter but I substituted Shea. Does anyone see any problems with this recipe?

Coconut Oil - 22.50%
Shea Butter - 15%
Olive Oil - 45%
Neem Seed Oil - 2.50%
Castor Oil - 15%

I added 2.5 tsp of sodium lactate, 2 Tbsp collodial oatmeal, and 1% (.32oz) of Cedarwood EO.

Focus on making good soap first. The selling part should be months if not years down the road. Have people test it and give you opinions.

 

[cappykat]

Focus on making good soap first. The selling part should be months if not years down the road. Have people test it and give you opinions.

I've been making soap for 9 years. I'm wanting to develop a dog soap but the online info is conflicting why I asked.

 

[lgranger]

I've been making soap for 9 years. I'm wanting to develop a dog soap but the online info is conflicting why I asked.

That's fair. Most everything on the web has conflicting opinions. That's why it's just best to do your own research and testing. But it takes time. Any info on pets is hard to pin down since they can't talk. Not trying to be smart alecy. It's just the nature of the beast.

 

[cappykat]

That's fair. Most everything on the web has conflicting opinions. That's why it's just best to do your own research and testing. But it takes time. Any info on pets is hard to pin down since they can't talk. Not trying to be smart alecy. It's just the nature of the beast.

It's hard to do testing on a dog when the testing could cause harm. That's why I was hoping to get input from other soapers who may have made doggie soap. Not asking for recipes but thought others would at least know what eo's are safe and what the usage rate is. I've made two test batches but without solid evidence of what is safe I'm not going to test it on my dog or ask others to do so. I dont want to be sued for hurting someone's pet.

 

[BWt]

It's hard to do testing on a dog when the testing could cause harm. That's why I was hoping to get input from other soapers who may have made doggie soap. Not asking for recipes but thought others would at least know what eo's are safe and what the usage rate is. I've made two test batches but without solid evidence of what is safe I'm not going to test it on my dog or ask others to do so. I dont want to be sued for hurting someone's pet.

HumbleBeeandme has dog soap recipe. Try a search online for Skin safe EO for dogs. There are several veterinary sites with opinions

 

[cappykat]

HumbleBeeandme has dog soap recipe. Try a search online for Skin safe EO for dogs. There are several veterinary sites with opinions

Thank you. I've done all this. Why I came here...one site will say peppermint is safe, another says it isn't. Same for cedarwood. Believe me, I am a researcher ad nauseum but when you can get a definitive answer you turn to other soapers hoping they can help.

 

[BWt]

Here is a website I trust. I own his book on essential oils. Lots of good information on this site. Dr Axe is MD with multiple references to Veterinary doctors in this article. Hope you find it helpful. It has EO for pets and EO never ever for pets
https://draxe.com/essential-oils/essential-oils-for-pets/

 

[cappykat]

Here is a website I trust. I own his book on essential oils. Lots of good information on this site. Dr Axe is MD with multiple references to Veterinary doctors in this article. Hope you find it helpful. It has EO for pets and EO never ever for pets
https://draxe.com/essential-oils/essential-oils-for-pets/

Thank you. I appreciate this...will definitely check it out.

 

[KiwiMoose]

I'm thinking lavender and cedar wood for my next batch of doggie soap.

 

[cappykat]

I made cedarwood doggie soap but because info was so conflicting I haven't used it on my dog. If I post the recipe would you give me your input? Do you sell your doggie soap?

 

[KiwiMoose]

I made cedarwood doggie soap but because info was so conflicting I haven't used it on my dog. If I post the recipe would you give me your input? Do you sell your doggie soap?

Yes I do - and everyone that uses it seems to like it. Ask @Zing - he even has a bar! I'm not sure that recipe input would be much good, since we all have our preferences. The recipe in the opening post looks fine to me (except the castor is a bit high and will make softer soap - but that won't cause any actual soaping issues).

 

[Zing]

I'm excited about the dog soap from @KiwiMoose but it's a gift to a friend so I don't have any feedback on it -- but she is perfect in every way so I'm sure it's fine.

I'm not an expert on dog soap but do know a bit about people soap. I do castor at 5% and many caution about going more than 10%. How did you arrive at 15%.

 

[cappykat]

I'm excited about the dog soap from @KiwiMoose but it's a gift to a friend so I don't have any feedback on it -- but she is perfect in every way so I'm sure it's fine.

I'm not an expert on dog soap but do know a bit about people soap. I do castor at 5% and many caution about going more than 10%. How did you arrive at 15%.

That's what the recipe I found said to use.

That's what the recipe I found said to use.

The recipe posted is what I made not @KiwiMoose. You can adjust the amount of castor to your liking.

 

[forestedge]

Canine skin is more alkaline than human skin, with a pH range of 5.5 to 7.2. I have tried a few different CP soaps on my furbaby and it's a BIG no go including a rash about 15 min later and another time, trying to chew paw-pads off. Even with an 'acceptable pH'. Syndet has worked although I'm still really cautious.

 

[KiwiMoose]

Canine skin is more alkaline than human skin, with a pH range of 5.5 to 7.2. I have tried a few different CP soaps on my furbaby and it's a BIG no go including a rash about 15 min later and another time, trying to chew paw-pads off. Even with an 'acceptable pH'. Syndet has worked although I'm still really cautious.

Gosh that's no good. What did you used to use before trying CP on the doglet?

 

[forestedge]

Prior to my 'adventures in soap making', I purchased a dog-specific liquid oatmeal shampoo. It worked fine but I figured that I could make an even better one...

I used pH strips and everything, it should work - right? No, it didn't. A trip to the vet for a shot to calm the reaction and some meds.

So now I'm making syndet dog shampoo (for my dogs only, not to sell), using a pH meter and being oh so very, very careful. So far, so good.

 

[Happy2018]

Hi,

Please forgive me if I am posting in the wrong place.

I have been reading about making dog shampoo bars for the last three days, and pretty much nothing else.

I'm not looking for a recipe. But more the quality of oils and how they effect dogs.

There is a HUGE massive amount of info on the quality of oils and their properties, and how they function, but its all for humans.

For example coconut oil, is great for (I am sure you all know this, but need the info for my example)
Coconut oil is great for hardness, cleaning, bubbly, but poor for condition and creamy for humans.

I read somewhere, on the forum, I believe, that coconut oil is NOT good for dogs, because its too cleansing, but some is need, and should not be more then 20 percent.

Here is my question: Where are the ideal conditions for cold press soap for dogs?

Yes / no- hardness - ?
Not too cleansing ?
Yes /no to bubbles ? For the dog or for the persons washing the dog?
Yes /no to conditioning ?
Yes / no to Creamy? For the dog or for the persons washing the dog?





Thanks in advance to all those who reply.

 

[forestedge]

Re your question ideal conditions for cp soap for dogs:

Any soap used for dogs must be within a pH range of 5.5 to 7.2. Suggest reading the attached info from Chemists Corner.

https://chemistscorner.com/cosmetic...text=If you lower the pH,answer is you can't.
Coconut oil on dogs is a cautious yes. However, as with human skin - some dogs will have a reaction as coconut oil can be very drying.