Castille Soap - ???

[Obsidian]

Copra is another name for coconut oil.

 

[Tienne]

That makes sense! I learn something every day. Thanks Obsidian.

 

[MoonBath]

Also "Aleppo" sounds way sexier and looks cooler but unless you have a friend in Turkey or want to import it by the metric ton it's hard to get the laurel oil.

FIRST WITCH
A sailor's wife had chestnuts in her lap,
And munch'd, and munch'd, and munch'd:--
'Give me,' quoth I:
'Aroint thee, witch!' the rump-fed ronyon cries.
Her husband's to Aleppo gone, master o' th' Tiger;.
But in a sieve I'll thither sail,.
And like a rat without a tail,.
I'll do, I'll do, and I'll do.

Macbeth, Act I sc. iii

 

[user 12568]

Are you talking dirty??? LOL!

 

[boyago]

FIRST WITCH
A sailor's wife had chestnuts in her lap,
And munch'd, and munch'd, and munch'd:--
'Give me,' quoth I:
'Aroint thee, witch!' the rump-fed ronyon cries.
Her husband's to Aleppo gone, master o' th' Tiger;.
But in a sieve I'll thither sail,.
And like a rat without a tail,.
I'll do, I'll do, and I'll do.

Macbeth, Act I sc. iii

Othello
...

And say besides, that in Aleppo once,
Where a malignant and a turban'd Turk
Beat a Venetian and traduced the state,
I took by the throat the circumcised dog,
And smote him, thus.


Othello V, ii


Awl snap, we gettin all poet on this soap yo!

 

[user 12568]

Awl snap, we gettin all poet on this soap yo!

 

[Jencat]

So going by that, if a soap doesn't comply with those rules, I suppose a 72% (or above) OO soap could rightly be considered to be a ******* Marseille... or a Barseille Soap! (Haha! How many think that name would catch on? LOL! )

LOL! I like it.

 

[neeners]

Okay! While it does sound really plausible, I can't really get that to fit. I fiddled around on soapcalc for a while and the closest I could get to a soap+lye+water ratio that fit was 100% OO at 5% SF and a 2:1 water:lye ratio, BUT the numbers were just a teensy bit off and I just couldn't fiddle my way to getting the numbers to fit exactly. If folks are going to have soap stamps made that say 72% and not 72.1 or 71.9 then being the stickler that I am I would expect the numbers to fit exactly.

I agree, the numbers aren't exact, but...think of it from the perspective of hundreds of years ago when Castile was first made and perfected. they probably didn't have digital scales and soapcalcs like we do now. they probably had a 72% benchmark as the amt of oil.

 

[Tienne]

No, they didn't have the scales like we have, but that's irrelevant. Don't forget that the 72% isn't a Castile benchmark at all, but a Marseille benchmark. That being the case, it's pretty easy to make a (or any) Marseille recipe with 72% olive and whatever for the rest. (The 72% just has to be the amount of OO of total oils and not of the total recipe, as the "get-the-numbers-to-fit" Castile suggestion was all about.)

 

[hlee]

So I am still confused after reading this thread.
Any additives would change a 100% OO soap to a bastille?

 

[Lin]

So I am still confused after reading this thread.
Any additives would change a 100% OO soap to a bastille?

I believe that depends on the individual you ask. But any other oils would change it to a bastile.

For example I made castile soap recently and didn't use water for my liquid, I used pumpkin for one and greek yogurt for the other. So I consider them to be a pumpkin castile and a greek yogurt castile. However theres a thread up about castile for the new year, making it now to use next year... And most individuals are discussing adding other oils such as 5% castor oil in with the OO. If its 5% castor oil, its not castile any longer. Castile is only 100% olive oil.

And as you can see in this thread, there are individuals who believe castile is only 100% olive oil, water, and lye. So they would say the soap I made was not castile. I disagree on this point. And there are individuals who say if its high in olive oil percentage, or only vegetable oils its castile... My personal opinion is it MUST be 100% olive oil and if you have additives to list them as "x" castile to verify it is not a "pure" castile.