Castile soap with pomace oil

[countrygirl1]

Hi,

I was thinking of making a 100% castile soap with olive pomace oil.

Is this the best choice to achieve a faster trace and how long would trace typically take?

Does this make the best castile?

Please help.

Cheers :?

 

[Bubbles Galore]

I made my castiles with 100% Extra Virgin Olive Oil which took f o r e v e r and longer to trace. I haven't made castile with pomace but when using it for other soaps, it certainly sped up the trace time.

Are you going to discount your water?

 

[Just Peachy]

Hi Countrygirl1! I can't help you with the trace question as I've never made any castile before but I do remember reading in my research that back in the day, castile was made from the lowest quality of oil. After all the good stuff was done they used the ickiest stuff to make into soap. Waste not, want not! Which makes sense to a certain degree. If you are just gonna throw it out, why not try to make soap from it? I would try pomace but I can't seem to find any locally!

 

[ohsoap]

I make my castile with olive pomace, I set my lye % at 40% and that makes it trace faster. I also put in 5-10% castor oil to help with bubbles. Both are tips I've gotten from browsing the forums.
I just love this site!

 

[Zenobiah]

I made an 70% OO (extra virgin) and 30%CO batch and trace took about 30 minutes. I also had to leave it in the mold for 2 weeks before I could get it out without messing it up (incredibly soft) and stored it for about 4 weeks after that (thinking it was not going to be usable) and it was he best soap I have ever made!

I have heard lots of different recommendations when it comes to which grade of oil to use. Seems like everyone has their favorite. I think I will try pomace next and see what the difference is and if I like it.

 

[gekko62]

3 things....Pomace,water discount,stick blender!

 

[Cuckoo Bananas]

The stick blender is whats going to make the difference! I made my first one stirring by hand, you can leave it for quite long periods between stirring though. It took about 30hours for mine to trace.

 

[whisks]

CB, if i had to wait 30 hours, i don't know if i would feel safe to leave it - i'd be paranoid about it hardening while i was asleep....maybe not so much now, but in the beginning, definitely.

 

[Bubbles Galore]

I make my castile with olive pomace, I set my lye % at 40% and that makes it trace faster. I also put in 5-10% castor oil to help with bubbles. Both are tips I've gotten from browsing the forums.
I just love this site!

Sounds good. Have you used the soap yet? What's the bubble factor like please?

 

[countrygirl1]

Dear Ohsoap,

I love your recipe, but what do you mean by lye % at 40%?

I like the idea of adding castor oil in too.

Does using less water mean quicker trace time?

Cheers

 

[carebear]

I don't work with pomace, or add any other oils to my castile (else it's not castile IMO), but I do a 40 -45% lye solution and I add it HOT.

 

[whisks]

I don't work with pomace, or add any other oils to my castile (else it's not castile IMO), but I do a 40 -45% lye solution and I add it HOT.

so do you HP or CP? if you CP, is your olive oil warm or at room temperature?

thanks.

 

[ohsoap]

At first I found the bar very slimey but I just had not let it cure long enough. Now it's lovely. I check again and it is 10%castor and 90% olive. I added a little Lavender EO and use it to bath my baby girl. She does not have cradle cap at all, and I believe it's due to the moisturizing qualities of the olive oil.
(when my eldest daughter had it, I was told to rub olive oil on her head)

I soap at about 100 degrees always, I am just not patient enough to do room temp. Yes I meant lye solution.
What soap calculator do you use? Soapcalc lets you set your lye solution.

I think I read every thread on castile soap before making mine. Some ppl swear that you get less of a slimey feeling with olive pomace, but I have never used anything else so I can't tell you from experience. But I do like my bubble with the added castor.

 

[Cuckoo Bananas]

CB, if i had to wait 30 hours, i don't know if i would feel safe to leave it - i'd be paranoid about it hardening while i was asleep....maybe not so much now, but in the beginning, definitely.

Like I say that was the first soap that I made, I wasn't worried about it setting while I slept, everywhere i read it said that castille would take 1-2 days to trace by hand so its not like its going to set and seize up in you pot overnight.

 

[soap_rat]

Pomace speeds up trace SO MUCH with castile soap. I made several batches years ago, first by hand & with extra virgin, then with pomace grade. And a stick blender. I stick blend a large batch (maybe 8 lbs? 10?) for a minute or less, at maybe 105 degrees. It traces a lot faster than a batch of mixed oils.

If I made castile soap again, I'd add some castor oil. I really don't like the lack of lather.

 

[renaissancemom]

if you did 100% OO could you add castor at trace to add bubbles or is it better to do 90/10 OO/Castor oil.

why castor over coconut?

 

[soap_rat]

renaissancemom, my answer to your question is: my regular, non-castile soap recipe has plenty of coconut oil in it (I don't recall how much, sorry, at least 20% I'd say) and I liked the sudsing. But when I tried a soap where I modified that recipe to have 5% castor oil, I LOVED the suds and I now use 5% castor oil all the time. Maybe another person would think that adding coconut oil to castile soap would be great, I just like what castor does and that's what I would add

My understanding of adding oil at trace is: that's the oil that will be most present as free oil in the finished soap. It's the castor oil *as soap* that is sudsy, so I would just have it mixed in with everything.

I hope that helps!