Carotino oil ??

[Traceyann]

Just wondering if anyone has soaped with carotino oil ( couldnt find anything in search ) , I have cut and pasted some info from their website ......



"Red palm oil is obtained from the flesh of the oil palm fruit. It shouldn’t be confused with palm kernel oil which is comes from the kernel or seed of the palm fruit. Both are edible oils, but have very different chemical compositions.

The red palm oil used in Carotino comes from environmentally sustainable plantations in Malaysia and is cultivated under strict environmental controls.

Carotino's patented oil extraction method means that the red palm oil does not need to be hydrogenated - unlike many other cooking oils - so the natural nutrients are retained and it’s free from harmful 'trans fatty acids' or 'trans fats'.

Carotino is uniquely rich in natural pro-Vitamin A, Vitamin E and Lycopene - all of which are powerful anti-oxidants. Anti-oxidants fight cell damage caused by 'free radicals' in the body and are vital for healthy immune systems."

 

[Pepper]

Tracey, the problem with Carotino is it is a blend of red palm and canola, and the label doesn't give the percentage of each. I wrote to Carotino, and despite lots of to-ing and fro-ing, I never received an answer to my "what are the percentages" question. The person who I corresponded with seemed to be purposely avoiding that question, so I'm assuming there's a lot more canola than they'd be willing to admit to. Because I don't know the percentages, I don't know how much caustic to use. I explained that to the chap, but he just said to use half and half carotino and copha. That still didn't tell me how much caustic, so I gave up. It could probably be used as the superfat oil for colour, although I haven't tried it myself.

 

[Traceyann]

ok I found this info too......

Lauric 0%
linoleic 10%
linolenic 0%
Oleic 39%
Palmitic 44%
Ricinoleic 0%
stearic 5%
myristic 1%
Iodine Value 53
SAP Value Sodium Hydroxide .142
SAP Value Potassium Hydroxide .199

Here are some of the characteristics that you will find in your finished product when you try palm oil soap making:

Bubbly lather No
Creamy/Stable lather Yes
Cleansing Mild
Conditioning Some
Hardness Yes

Palm oil is occasionally referred to as the "vegan's substitute for tallow" because it adds similar structural properties to the soap as tallow while allowing you to avoid the use of animal products if you so desire.

When making soap with palm oil, the glycerin yield is actually lower then with other soap making oils. This is because of its high percentage of free fatty acids. Despite the lower glycerin levels, palm oil soap making is still appealing because of the nice creamy/stable lather it produces and the hardness it adds to the soap. Keep in mind that if you use other oils in your recipe (which you likely will) the low glycerin yield will not be a problem as other ingredients will make up for it.

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So any one interested in simplifying this info for a newbie ???? is this Red Palm oil similar to regular palm oil ??? I have never tried Palm oil before so any input would be really greatly appreciated ......

Thanks
Trace

 

[Pepper]

Tracey, the problem with Carotino is it is a blend of red palm and canola, and the label doesn't give the percentage of each. I wrote to Carotino, and despite lots of to-ing and fro-ing, I never received an answer to my "what are the percentages" question. The person who I corresponded with seemed to be purposely avoiding that question, so I'm assuming there's a lot more canola than they'd be willing to admit to. Because I don't know the percentages, I don't know how much caustic to use. I explained that to the chap, but he just said to use half and half carotino and copha. That still didn't tell me how much caustic, so I gave up. It could probably be used as the superfat oil for colour, although I haven't tried it myself.

 

[newbie]

If this is the same as red palm butter:

http://www.camdengrey.com/essential-oil ... utter.html

then yes. I love this as a soaping ingredient. I suppose one thing that stops people from using it a lot is that it imparts such a strong color to the soap. It's a beautiful color- a beautiful golden/orange/pumpkin color depending on what percentage of your oils it makes up, but if you want to use colors/do swirls and have a white background to work from, you can't use this. Otherwise a great ingredient.

 

[Traceyann]

Thanks Pepper , I love the colour so might try the superfat and c what it looks like .....if all fails it sounds like a healthy oil for cooking with ...if there actually is such thing lol

 

[newbie]

i see many of us were replying at once. If you are interested in getting the color but not having to deal with the uncertainty of the mix and what SAP value it has, you could use just the red palm butter itself. I don't know who else carries it, but I've gotten it from Camden Grey and was very happy with it. Still have a bit sitting in my fridge, actually!

 

[Traceyann]

certainly sounds similar newbie....I think I will have a play with this and c what happens

 

[soapbuddy]

I've used unrefined red palm oil as a colorant. A little goes a looooong way. I bet that would be in this case too.

 

[Traceyann]

Irena , it is a very pretty red/brown colour isnt it , I will be mindful of what u said , Thanks

 

[soapbuddy]

Irena , it is a very pretty red/brown colour isnt it , I will be mindful of what u said , Thanks

You're welcome Traceyann. One time I used too much and people at the market thought that I made cheese.

 

[newbie]

Ha! I made a batch with red palm butter and ended up having to rebatch it. That's exactly what I called it- my cheese soap- because it looked exactly like blocks of cheddar. Someone bought it actually! And I use it myself. It does make good soap.

 

[Traceyann]

mmmmm cheese is yellow here lol