oh, i suggest that you could see a book of a Taiwan soap master, his name is "Uncle Qiao", I think, one who can reach such level of swirl(but his formula was a little terrible), he could absolutely earn a master title. There were also some amazing level soap makers in China. For example, a gril/woman names "Quiet", She sell her hand made soaps twice a years, and handreds soaps one time. Each of her soap was the mose lux one and was absolutely a artistic. When the day come, hunderds of people wait in her web shop(which was usually shut down most time), and rob her soaps she hang on in the shop, every kinds of soap were usually sold out in 5 second( you can imagine thousand people click the F5 at 24:00PM again and again....)