Rosewater as dilution liquid

herackonchiasa · Oct 14, 2014

Has anyone else ever diluted their liquid soap base with 100% rose water ? I dont mean using it to dissolve koh in. I mean having the finished paste dissolve in an arbitrary amount of rose water , with rosewater being the only liquid the paste is being dissolved in. Anyone ? ?? & if you dont mind, may I know the results?

herackonchiasa · Oct 14, 2014

Anyone? ??

IrishLass · Oct 14, 2014

I haven't, but I don't see why it couldn't be done.

IrishLass

herackonchiasa · Oct 14, 2014

I asked because I made a base comprising of coconut, mct, and castor oils only. I divided the base into three 19oz batches , and added 11oz each of coconut milk, rosewater, and distilled water, respectively. With some ps80 for the coconut milk dilution. An experiment. But I wanted to see if anyone else had done it before.

FGOriold · Oct 14, 2014

Anytime you use anything other than distilled or similar water for dilution you are creating an environment for rancidity and growth of nasties. I would not use milks at all for dilution- all or part. Botanicals are "bug food" too - so be very careful and consider preservatives.

herackonchiasa · Oct 14, 2014

FGOriold said:
Anytime you use anything other than distilled or similar water for dilution you are creating an environment for rancidity and growth of nasties. I would not use milks at all for dilution- all or part. Botanicals are "bug food" too - so be very careful and consider preservatives.

Speaking of that I did forget to put that I used optiphen as a preservative . In all three batches. I was so focused on the dilution part of the experiment when explaining.

herackonchiasa · Oct 14, 2014

But duly noted FGOriold

FGOriold · Oct 14, 2014

Please note that optiphen may not be an appropriate preservative for liquid soap as it is currently listed by the manufacturer as being effective up to a pH of 8. Liquid Soap will have a pH that is higher than that.

herackonchiasa · Oct 14, 2014

FGOriold said:
Please note that optiphen may not be an appropriate preservative for liquid soap as it is currently listed by the manufacturer as being effective up to a pH of 8. Liquid Soap will have a pH that is higher than that.

What are good preservatives for ph above 8?

FGOriold · Oct 14, 2014

Suttocide A is the only one that I am aware of in the US that is effective in a higher pH (up to 12). I have been told that the formaldehyde releasers (liquid germall) would also work, even though the manufacturer also indicates an upper pH limit of 8. Note that Suttocide A will react with citral (a component in many citrus EO's and in various FO's) and will turn your soap into varying shades of pink.

herackonchiasa · Oct 14, 2014

FGOriold said:
Suttocide A is the only one that I am aware of in the US that is effective in a higher pH (up to 12). I have been told that the formaldehyde releasers (liquid germall) would also work, even though the manufacturer also indicates an upper pH limit of 8. Note that Suttocide A will react with citral (a component in many citrus EO's and in various FO's) and will turn your soap into varying shades of pink.

Thank you so much . Knowledge is power. Off to buy some now !

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