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What about this base? Still not really soap? I'm just trying to make sure before i invest a buncha money and find out i didn't make soap all along so than you all for all your help!

Also, I am using melt and pour bases and some do not have sodium hydroxide...so are they not really soap?

Thanks for the responses. The soap i mentioned is from "Out of Africa". I had a feeling they may not have put all the ingredients on the box but that's a bit odd isn't it? Also if i purchase the melt and pour base which has sodium hydroxide already in it, then that means I'm all set with lye...

I don't have lye in a lot of the soaps I have purchased. In fact one only has five ingredients: Shea butter, palm kernel oil, olive oil, vanilla oil and purified water and it's amazing. Why do these people say you have to use it? Also I am new to this site and just started making soaps myself :D