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You are misreading your readings. They added water to shaved soap and then added herbs that detoxify the hair. Thus diluting the soap and then adding the other agents, thus rendering it highly diluted soap and not straight soap. They knew it was bad even way back then. Herbs don't survive...

Soap makers should just stop being misleading and call their 'shampoo' hair soap, which it really is. It is giving soap makers a bad name. That's enough Thread/

Do you tell them that it is just soap and that like every soap you can use it in your hair? Or do you miss lead them and tell them that it is specially made and differentiates from normal soap?

Thank God for bacteriophages, the most prominent organism on earth. There are more bacteriophages than all other organisms combined. They are not alive or dead, and they kill bacteria. I am not trying to make people convert to liquid soap, I am trying to stop the CP soap as shampoo scam...

All the ingredients are FDA approved. 1000 units have been sold outside of New Zealand. 1000 units at 49$ per unit.

There are no regulations like that in New Zealand. We don't need insurance or anything to sell soap or personal care products. The only rules we have is that you can't make claims that it is a cure to something. Like we can't say that this soap cures itchy skin kind of thing. I am not...

I am not trying to sell anything, I am just pointing out a huge gap in the otherwise saturated market of handmade beuty products. I am also a microbiologist and have tested in the laboratory bacteria formation on used soap and let me tell you, it is not the pretty picture that you are...

Not everything It's their shampoo, I have just been trying to help them formulate a freezer stable version so that they can go completely plastic free. Shampoo bars synthetic or CP soap must just absolutely be crawling with bacteria. That is another reason to not make super hard soap...

The purpose of the thread is to find out why people sell and give away CP soap as shampoo, when it isn't shampoo at all and is in fact dangerous to hair. In my shampoo you will find keratin, cocoa, mango, Shea and a host of other good for the hair products.

Handmade soap isn't all that natural. It is made using quite a heavy chemical reaction. Well it depends on what you call natural. Even SLS is naturally derived. Please elaborate on natural. Handmade soap isn't all that natural. It is made using quite a heavy chemical reaction. Well it depends...

That is a good description of it. It is complicated. Conditioner. Don't get me started. Proper hair conditioner is probably likely one of the hardest of all body care products. It is miles out of my league at this stage. The hand made conditioner out there is not real conditioner. No, I...

Just had a quick look online and there is a lot of commercially made shampoo butter but basically zero hand made natural stuff. I am sorry that I can't give you the formulation. If you can formulate a freezer stable shampoo butter, you will be likely to make a lot of money Big opportunitie...

This is the wrong forum for this topic. I is not solid, nor is it soap. Zero lye. If you want to be initiative and at the top of the game, start making it. As of right now there are zero recipes online for shampoo butter, that is why the market for it right now is endless. But CP soap works...

100% natural shampoo butter.

The oatmeal and honey will possibly irritate the skin. Also they clay might irritate the skin.

Also, why spend all that time making cp soap for a shampoo, when you can make a high end shampoo for the same supply cost that is ready to use instantly, is worth 5 times more, and will make your hair better than any cp soap ever will?

The lye is probably too cold when you mix. Do you heat the lye before you combine it with the oil? When dealing with cold lye, it takes ages to trace. Did it get to trace or just emulsion? Emulsion pours tend to get soda ash.

@Auxotroph Yes that's what I'm saying - I doubt they would waste $50 shampoo for a standard wash and blow-dry. They usually use their cheapest bulk-buy shampoo for that (my sister is a hairdresser). Have a sneak peek at their shampoo butter would you and see what the ingredients are? I am...

Are you sure. My salon makes its own shampoo butter and they sell it at 50$ for a small tin. That sounds like plain old CP soap to me. Do you clean your body with your 'shampoo' before you wash your hair?

Do you know of any hair salons using these kinds of shampoo bars?