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  1. FGOriold

    Liquid soap going bad after a few months

    Trying to add a pic - let's see if this works...... This soap has quite a bit more glycerin added to it after dilution than you do (60% glycerin and 40% soap) - but as you can see how it transformed from beautifully clear to that cloudy layer on top over about 3 weeks time. This soap has no...
  2. FGOriold

    Liquid soap going bad after a few months

    Ok - so you added about 10% glycerin to your diluted soap - correct? That should not cause a problem - I ask because I have seen something similar when far too much glycerin is added to liquid soap (over 50%) and I did an experiment to test this and while it did not make the entire sample...
  3. FGOriold

    Liquid soap going bad after a few months

    How much diluted soap did you have before you added the glycerin? Is your 2 gallons after the glycerin addition?
  4. FGOriold

    Liquid soap going bad after a few months

    Failor's recipes use a lye excess that is later neutralized not a lye discount so I am a bit confused. But - I also don't think your soaps went bad based on the images you posted (you really cannot know for sure without appropriate challenge testing though), it really looks like FO issues or...
  5. FGOriold

    Liquid soap going bad after a few months

    How much of a lye discount did you use (that is the same as a superfat). I find that superfatted soaps can look great at first but over time, the excess fats rise to the top to create a layer like that (slightly opaque, whitish, flows around when shaken a bit). Some will, some will not -...
  6. FGOriold

    Liquid soap going bad after a few months

    I have never had soap go bad..... yet, but I have had soap turn cloudy and various stages of cloudy due to temperature changes in the room it is stored. It does not go cloudy all at once, but sometimes little dots or ghosting and stops there (goes back to clear when returned to room...
  7. FGOriold

    pH of LS

    Knowing the pH of your liquid soap is important for troubleshooting problems one may be having with it - especially if pH adjusters or buffers are added to account for a lye excess in a formula. Many people formulate with a lye excess that is then neutralized after dilution - this...
  8. FGOriold

    pH of LS

    My soaps' pH typically range between 8.8 - 9.8 depending on the formulation. I do not add any neutralizing additives either as I don't formulate with a lye excess and feel I get the best stability this way. Higher coconut oil soaps tend to come out with a slightly lower pH, higher olive oils...
  9. FGOriold

    pH of LS

    Soap is an alkaline product and will not have a neutral pH. Lower your pH too much and it starts to break apart as Meganmischke has said. The lower the pH, the less cleansing ability too. If your testing device is telling you your Liquid soap has a pH of 7, it is most likely not very accurate...
  10. FGOriold

    Soaping 101 liquid soapmaking video?

    Whenever I do part water/part glycerin I get those types of stages. Applesauce, then thick, chunky potato like, then matte smooth and creamy, then glossy smooth and creamy.
  11. FGOriold

    Why is Dr Bronner Baby Mild so soft

    It is quite simple - "Marketing". There is nothing about Dr. Bonners soap that makes it any different than the liquid soaps without additives we all can make. They market this one as baby/mild because it has no added fragrance/EO's and such that are added to their other soaps. Remember, just...
  12. FGOriold

    Specialty Soap Bases (olive oil, shae butter, etc)

    It is a good idea to read the ingredient list on any soap base to make sure you know what you are purchasing too. Some are actual soap and some are detergents.
  13. FGOriold

    Can this batch be saved?

    Youu can add a bit more water if your soap has a skin or you can remove it and dilute it separately.
  14. FGOriold

    Stearic acid for shimmer

    Yes - using the glycerin method will greatly speed up the processing time in making liquid soap and 30 minutes is not at all unusual using that method. You will always still want to test it for excess lye (which you have done) and clarity though.
  15. FGOriold

    Can this batch be saved?

    Susie is right that each time you make liquid soap, it can act differently for various reasons. Some go through all the stages, some go through just a few and some go so fast you don't even see them. One thing to keep in mind is there are quite a few "older" recipes and tutorials out there that...
  16. FGOriold

    Stearic acid for shimmer

    I also find that goat's milk (going back to animal fats) always gives my liquid soap a pearlized shimmery look too depending on how much is used.
  17. FGOriold

    Stearic acid for shimmer

    If adding stearic acid as one of your oils up front, yes, you include it in your lye calculations. If trying to use it after the fact, you need to be careful because you will be superfatting your soap. If your soap has excess lye, then the stearic acid can neutralize that excess lye by giving...
  18. FGOriold

    Stearic acid for shimmer

    Neutralizing excess lye and adjusting pH are two different things. Yes, some ingredients may do both (citric acid as it is a pH adjuster) and others do not.
  19. FGOriold

    Stearic acid for shimmer

    http://swiftcraftymonkey.blogspot.com/2013/06/stearic-acid-few-questions-answered.html?m=1
  20. FGOriold

    Stearic acid for shimmer

    Stearic acid will not affect pH - in fact it is used at up to 5% (some may use even higher percentages) with glycerin to superfat cream soap (this is what gives cream soap its pearlized look) - does not affect pH. Also, some cream soap recipes use up to 70% stearic acid with the base oils - pH...
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